Some ‘Death cards’ ww1 era

[Farkas]

Hi Gents

i think I’ve got 4 or 5 of these to share,

please feel free to add your own....

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Josef Brunner

Born - 29 October 1877

Died - 21 March 1917

 

Johann Mauernbod.

Franz Stadlbauer

KuK IR 59

tony

Edited November 8, 2018 by Farkas

[Chris Boonzaier]

Is Spitale an Austrian only word for Hospital? I have not seen it used on German Death cards?

[GreyC]

These are not German. They are all Austrian. As Spital is an abbreviation of Hospital you find them as Spital or Spitäler (plur) also (mostly) in southern parts of Germany (Heiligengeistspital Freising e.g.) As a streetname you find them e.g. still in Hamburg. That shows that the word was once quite common in all of Germany. In its full form as "Hospital" you find them all over in Germany.

GreyC

Edited November 9, 2018 by GreyC

[Chris Boonzaier]

Hi,

granted, I have not noticed it used but I have not looked. I cannot remember seeing it used on a German death card though...

[Farkas]

Hi Gents

interesting reading your posts

i didn’t question Spitale as it sounds like Hospital which is familiar to me....

my ‘naive’ input is... 

I thought the word for hospital was Lazarette, but upon checking now that seems to refer to ‘epedemic/isolation’ treatment......

So thanks both

16 hours ago, Chris Boonzaier said:

Is Spitale an Austrian only word for Hospital? I have not seen it used on German Death cards?

 

11 hours ago, GreyC said:

 As Spital is an abbreviation of Hospital you find them as Spital or Spitäler (plur) also (mostly) in southern parts of Germany (Heiligengeistspital Freising e.g.)

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Gents

These two are (I think) both from the same unit.  Landwehr Unit/Regiment 11.

There is such a resemblance in my opinion. Different surnames but still maybe related? Perhaps uncle and nephew?

tony

[GreyC]

Hi Tony,

not quite. Lazarett and Spital and Hospital basically mean the same thing, as does Krankenhaus. Basically. The older word is (Ho)spital. HoSpitäler were originally run by the church as home for the old or feeble from which evolved the meaning of home for the sick. During the time of the plague from 14th c. HosSpitale/Spitäler that specifically catered for the need of the "plagued" began to be called Lazarett. This word was later used for military hospitals.

GreyC

[Farkas]

 

19 minutes ago, GreyC said:

Hi Tony,

not quite. Lazarett and Spital and Hospital basically mean the same thing, as does Krankenhaus. Basically. The older word is (Ho)spital. HoSpitäler were originally run by the church as home for the old or feeble from which evolved the meaning of home for the sick. During the time of the plague from 14th c. HosSpitale/Spitäler that specifically catered for the need of the "plagued" began to be called Lazarett. This word was later used for military hospitals.

GreyC

Ah wicked thanks GreyC

I was confused as i have loads of cards stamped field-lazarett, not related to some kind of quarantine.... (eg flu epedemic)

‘Krankenhaus’ sounds like the sort of place I should be locked up in after an evening googling translations!!

it’s not just us Brits who have more than one word for the same thing (or more than one thing for the same word probably!)

tony

[GreyC]

For those stricken with a contagious diseases there were spezial Lazarette or wards in large military hospital like this one for the German troops in Poland in Warzaw. Here it is called "Seuchenabteilung". If it were a special hospital on its own the name would be Seuchenlazarett.

On the way away from the front you´d have first Sanitätsposten, then Hauptverbandsplatz, Feldlazarett, and already in the Etappe: Kriegslazarett. The Feldlazarett was between 1-3 km behind the lines (roughly) it had operating facilities and could undertake serious operations.

GreyC

Edited November 10, 2018 by GreyC

[Farkas]

I watched a documentary the other day that named the poor fella who, supposedly, started the European flu epidemic....

A soldier from rural America who fell ill in the US but still went to France and then it  spread from him to various camps/locations and beyond....

50-100 million dead....

[Bayern]

19 hours ago, Chris Boonzaier said:

Is Spitale an Austrian only word for Hospital? I have not seen it used on German Death cards?

Hello , Spital was used in Austria and Switzerlendand .

[GreyC]

and, as shown, in Germany.

GreyC

[Chris Boonzaier]

As chance would have it, I just received a collection of 650 death cards yesterday, I was not looking specifically for the word, but read them all and  "Spital" jumped out on one card.

I do agree that it would have been used in Germany, but I am supposing by the beginning of the 20th century it is mainly regional? The German card in question was from a guy who lived very close to the Austrian border.

Language/Dialect/Words are seldom stopped by a border, so would I be right in thinking that by the beginning of WW1 it was mainly in use not only in Austria etc, but also still comman in border areas?

[GreyC]

As I wrote in #3 of this thread most common in Southern Germany. Not necessarily confined to border areas.
GreyC

[Farkas]

Hi gents

another from IR59

Lorenz Reudecter(?)

tony

Edited November 13, 2018 by Farkas

[Farkas]

Hi Gents

this is my last for now I think...

Anton Mullauer

October 1914

 

tony

[Farkas]

Hi Gents.

 

In memory of Georg Ostheimer

3. Triolet Kaiserjager Regiment

He died 2nd April 1915, aged 21.

tony

[Bayern]

On 13/11/2018 at 19:49, Farkas said:

Hi gents

another from IR59

Lorenz Reudecter(?)

tony

Neudecker ,tony

[Farkas]

On 19/12/2018 at 01:35, Bayern said:

Neudecker ,tony

Thanks Bayern.....