glenngenie Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Hi all, Thought I would post this for you to have a look at. British issue Bronze war medal to a member of the Chinese Labour Corp. 105815 Chinese L. C. was told when I acquired it that it is to a Chang Tien Shu but I have no idea where to find out more. Enjoy! (sorry the edge shots are poor- I'll get it right eventually!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Beware there have been quite a lot of fake Chinese Labour Corps bronze BWMs on the market. From the image it is impossible to be sure. Paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter monahan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Interesting! Blank bronzes renamed or totally fabricated, Paul? I suppose anything gets faked these days, but that's a big step down from the infamous 'Light Brigade' Crimeas of the 1990s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 A large number turned up at DNW about 10-15 years ago. Luckily they were spotted and withdrawn prior to the auction. If it's worth faking someone will fake it. Paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenngenie Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 Hi Paul, I bought this and a ww2 Air Crew Europe Star a few years ago, from a dealer I trust in Scotland and I believe them to be original. Are there any areas of the BWM you think I should look closer at? I'll post the star later on, (flat battery in camera!). Should it be on a different thread or is it ok on here? Thanks for the warning! Glenn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenngenie Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 On 04/01/2015 at 06:09, rdarby said: The roll for the Chinese LC is available in the National Archives. I believe Gregory James' book includes it: http://ww1centenary.net/2013/12/05/ww1-books-the-chinese-labour-corps-1916-20/ Found this from 2015. I'll try the archives and hopefully get some more info and buying a new book..... roll on payday! Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter monahan Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 21 hours ago, paul wood said: A large number turned up at DNW about 10-15 years ago. Good to know. Thanks, Paul. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperParatus Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 On 09/01/2019 at 11:40, glenngenie said: Hi Paul, I bought this and a ww2 Air Crew Europe Star a few years ago, from a dealer I trust in Scotland and I believe them to be original. Are there any areas of the BWM you think I should look closer at? I'll post the star later on, (flat battery in camera!). Should it be on a different thread or is it ok on here? Thanks for the warning! Glenn Thankfully you used a truated dealer as the Air Crew Europe Star is one of the most faked medals out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azyeoman Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 As I understand it, the general consensus is the if the number has a three as one of the digits, then it should be a flat or straight-across at the top three and NOT a rounded three like this 3. I have made sure that any bronze BWMs to the CLC that I've had, have always had a flat three. They are "traceable" and the above mentioned book is excellent. I've not come across fake bronze BWMs for other LCs, but they may be out there. They are a fascinating medal to collect and the ones from Aden and Egypt are rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 glengennie, Try here for some tips to tell a fake from a real Bronze medal to the CLC. I have a link to a list of members of the CLC lining their name to the number on the medal. I'll have a look for it https://www.medalsofengland.com/medals.php?id=174&medalid=1842 Regards, Gordon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex K Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Gordon Craig said: glengennie, Try here for some tips to tell a fake from a real Bronze medal to the CLC. I have a link to a list of members of the CLC lining their name to the number on the medal. I'll have a look for it https://www.medalsofengland.com/medals.php?id=174&medalid=1842 Regards, Gordon Hi useful link, thanks Alex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 cheers for the info. p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 glengenie The medal rolls for the CLC medal are not on line but the thread will tell you were they can be found. https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/198022-chinese-labour-corps-medal-entitlements-reasearch/ Regards, Gordon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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