Guest Darrell Posted May 14, 2005 Posted May 14, 2005 Here is my faded 1st Class Gold (1985 Version 3):
Laurence Strong Posted May 14, 2005 Posted May 14, 2005 To the best of my knowledge, it's a gold version
Gerd Becker Posted May 14, 2005 Posted May 14, 2005 Thanks, Guys. I like them too. I try to get them all with Documents, but its hard to find some of them.Gerd
Guest Rick Research Posted May 14, 2005 Posted May 14, 2005 Here are a wartime pair to a sappers Guards Major named Kremnev that luckily came with the Temporary Certificates, so there are his rank, unit, and exact award dates for these that would otherwise simply be scrawled without any clues in an Orders Book.He received his OPW 1st Class in 1944 and his OPW 2nd Class in 1945, so different degrees of merit affected these, and they did not need to be earned in class order.The OPW 1st-- the rays are real gold, which is why they were cut out to save bullion, and the hammer/sickle are gold rivetted on.
Guest Rick Research Posted May 14, 2005 Posted May 14, 2005 Here is Major Kremnev's OPW 2nd Class-- note the rivetted gold hammer/sickle, as on all these pre-1985 ones, and among the almost endless varieties of reverses on these, the "pie pan" reverse of this one made such a hermetic seal with the disk screwed down that the "as issued" silver color remains under the circle, while the exposed edges have acquired a black silver patina over 60 years. I suspect Kremnev did not long survive the war, which is why he still had both Temporary Certificates-- they had not been replaced by an Orders Book.
Guest Rick Research Posted May 14, 2005 Posted May 14, 2005 Like most Soviet decorations, the Orders of the Patriotic War could be awarded multiple times in the same grade to a recipient... as is the case here with the suspiciously Dracula-looking naval administrative (!!!) Captain 1st Rank Pankratov in 1958
Gerd Becker Posted May 14, 2005 Posted May 14, 2005 Rick,fantastic examples. Do you have anything elso of his group?Gerd
Guest Rick Research Posted May 14, 2005 Posted May 14, 2005 Kremnev? yes, his campaign medals and their award booklets.One thing about the 1985 Jubilee OPWs-- there is NOTHING to tell you what the recipient was, from the standard pre-printed award booklets. There are multiple serial number letter prefixes which may simply have been assigned by geographic regions, for all that I can tell.It is really helpful to obtain the actual WW2 documentation that goes with any 1985 jubilee OPW.This one is the same as any others... except this man was a career State Security/Technical officer-- this came with parts of the rest of group 1946-1985. His 1946 Medals Book actually has his photo in it... but that's another thread!
Chris S Posted August 19, 2005 Posted August 19, 2005 Pat Wars....just love these great medals...and they have not yet reached crazy prices...unless you find a hanger.....This group is mounted as is, by the real owner....obviously really proud of his Guards status as he mounts his war time Guards badge next to his pair of Patriotic wars Class 1 and 2.He was a Major Vjali Robert AlexandrovishChris
Chris S Posted August 19, 2005 Posted August 19, 2005 His Doc which details his award of Class 1 and 2 of the Patriotic War....in great condition as well...as are all his docs...this guy looked after his medals and documents perfectly!Chris
Chris S Posted August 19, 2005 Posted August 19, 2005 He has been awarded the Victory over Germany medal twice, one for the military front and the other for the civil front ...I deduct therefore he was wounded and continued the war as a civilian...both in great condition.. Chris
Chris S Posted August 19, 2005 Posted August 19, 2005 His Doc for his Victory over Germany Medals....one states Guards Major!Chris
Chris S Posted August 19, 2005 Posted August 19, 2005 His 25 year Badge for Valour and Bravery in Patriotic War..Chris
Chris S Posted August 19, 2005 Posted August 19, 2005 His Lenin Centenary Medal......absolutely Mint...
Chris S Posted August 19, 2005 Posted August 19, 2005 His 20 years Victory over Germany and 50 years anniversary of the Red Army
Chris S Posted August 19, 2005 Posted August 19, 2005 His docs for the medals...here endeth the GroupChris
Chris S Posted August 19, 2005 Posted August 19, 2005 I don't normally bother with groups if they are not supported by documents, as they could be put together...if they are worth it individually maybe...but normally I give it a miss.This group caught my eye...its just wonderful...2 Patriotic wars 1st class and a loverly Red banner bar.Nice additional school and Naval vet badges....the paterna is all the same...old and rich...Gerd this will be the first one I will get researched to prove it is a Group...I am sure it is..Chris
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