Verify the owner of a medal bar

[lew]

Greetings gentlemen. I'd like to ask for your help to check if anything you can find on the name Alfred Günther Gölitz, who is maybe the recipient of this bar.

 

I got the bar together with some photos and paperwork directly from the family, according to the information I got Gölitz was born in 1890 at Chemitz and died in 1984 in Munich. He served in a cavalry unit and spent some years in Belgium, according to the photos he continued to serve during WWII.

The thing puzzling me is that from what I see in the painting, Gölitz was still a Lieutenant by 1917, it would be difficult to for him to get 1st class of Albert Order and 3rd class of Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt cross if I'm right...

 

 

Gölitz in a painting

 

 

Edited April 20, 2021 by lew

[lew]

Photo from 1939, still ranked Lieutenant 

 

 

[laurentius]

Dear Iew,

 

The painting of Alfred Gölitz does show a greenish ribbon next to the EK-ribbon which could be the Albrechtsorden. Given his rank and the fact he wears a three-piece ribbonbar in the 1939 photo makes me reluctant to believe the medalbar is his. Maybe he had an older brother, a father or a nephew? Families usually don't keep very good track of things like this, which results in these kind of problems.

 

All identification problems apart, a lovely bar and a lovely photo, I am jealous.

Kind regards, Laurentius

[Daniel Krause]

Hi Lew,

 

the bar belonged to Max Gölitz, 

Hauptmann der Landwehr ausser Dienst im Landsturm- Infanteriebataillon Chemnitz, in civil life he was a Kaufmann, business man.

I can confirm his Schwarzburg cross 3rd class with swords and his swords to the Sacon Albert knight 1st class, as well as the Landwehr long service medal 2nd class.

 

Best,

Daniel

[lew]

38 minutes ago, Daniel Krause said:

the bar belonged to Max Gölitz, 

Hauptmann der Landwehr ausser Dienst im Landsturm- Infanteriebataillon Chemnitz, in civil life he was a Kaufmann, business man.

 

You did it again Daniel! how many times have you helped me I just can't remember ? 

 

Great to have you guys around, many thanks to everyone!

[Daniel Krause]

@Lew, you are welcome.

 

@Triad, very nice godet bar. Will ask my crystal ball ?

 

best,

Daniel 

[lew]

3 hours ago, Simius Rex said:

Two officers by the name of Gölitz are listed as having received the AOR2X.  One is named Leutnant der Reserve Günter Gölitz from Landwehr IR-104 who received his cross on 24th of December 1916 (his Christmas Eve present it seems.)  The other Gölitz has no first name recorded but he was also in the IR-104 and received his cross in 1918.

 

There is a Hauptmann der Landwehr Gölitz a.D. from the 3rd Landsturm Infanterie Bataillon in Chemnitz recorded as having received the AOR1X on 17th of June 1916.

 

Thanks for great info! Günter Gölitz from Landwehr IR-104 must be the one in the painting and 1939 photo.

[David M]

Would love to know the status of that

[Daniel Krause]

I know that the Schwarzburg rolls are more or less ready and could be published sooner or later.

It only a question of time.

 

About Anhalt - I dont know how far Dave's work is.

 

About Triad's Godet -bar; from the combo Schwarzburg- Saxon-Austria, I THINK, it was one bar of Erich Menzel; see here

https://www.zeige.com/auktionskatalog/Grosse-Ordensspange-und-Urkunden--22648.html

The combo is quite rare, so I have the impression, it might be one of his with a limited assortment of decorations.

 

Best,

Daniel