Daffy Duck Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Luckily I have acquired this three orders which was most probably awarded to the same person. While it was quite easy to determine producers of the Serbian Order of Saint Sava and Montenegrin Order of Danilo I, I was unable to find any information about this Bulgarian Order of Saint Alexander. By no means I am not able to identify producer and even the time of possible award of this particular commander degree of Bulgarian order. I kindly ask for help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffy Duck Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 One more picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
922F Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Any marks/stamps on ring? Image of reverse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffy Duck Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 Unfortunately, I haven't been able to see any markings on the ring or anywhere else. The other problem is that someone butchered all three orders by removing central medallion on one side, in order to display them in a frame. The other two orders which I am quite familiar with, have the markings, both but this Order of Saint Alexander. I will post pictures of the reverse side of the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
922F Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Probably 3rd model, second type 1918-43 Sofia-made [most likely royal mint though the well known badge manufacturer firm Milosheva in Sofia may have subcontracted] silver gilt or bronze gilt. Other possible manufacturers include Rothe of Vienna [maybe with "silber", 900 {silver content} or Rothe stamp]. Some attribute pieces with 'silber' stamp to German makers. St. Alexander insignia also made in Germany [Zimmerman reported for jeweled pieces & miniatures] and Godet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) Hi, In my opinion it is more likely King Ferdinand Model in around the WW1 It is Commander Class - 3rd Class More likely unmarked Austrian Maker I am not sure whether the Firm Miloshev made St Alexander, especially in the early period. perhaps during the Regency and republican periods at the end of WW2 The text is very typical for this period During later periods the text is bigger Look for marks on the loop on top of the cross and on the ring above the crown. If you cannot find do not worry .still nice, although as you stated 'butchered" Most of those crosses had makers marks or hallmarks for silver content, especially the early made ones, however some were not marked, especially the bronze gilt ones Here are few examples of crosses with the green enamel On the left are crosses from King Boris III period on the right from King Ferdinand period See the difference in the Lions and the text on the central medallions white rings Note the Crosses on the middle with the text instead of lions, are 1st Class ones - one on the left King Boris III period the one on the right King Ferdinand period Edited October 23, 2021 by Graf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Ostapenko Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffy Duck Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 That's the original frame, which previous owner acquired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 On 22/10/2021 at 06:42, Daffy Duck said: Unfortunately, I haven't been able to see any markings on the ring or anywhere else. The other problem is that someone butchered all three orders by removing central medallion on one side, in order to display them in a frame. The other two orders which I am quite familiar with, have the markings, both but this Order of Saint Alexander. I will post pictures of the reverse side of the order. That is a shame to remove the reverse medallions for display. i suspect that this person is not any more alive and if he kept the medallions in a place only he knew the person who acquired the Set did not know about the fact and resp;d them as they were. Now if you have them you have the difficult tusk to get replacement medallions i t could be a long process but not impossible Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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