Deutschritter Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) Oberstabsarzt Otto Gustav von Niedner (1869–1946) was, after Dr. Friedrich von Ilberg, "Erster Leibarzt" of Kaiser Wilhelm II., he would later become Generaloberarzt (Charakter?). Any and all information would be appreciated. Strange how almost nothing is found on the internet. When was he made a noble? He not just had the EK I (1914), but also the EK 1 (1939) ... what did he do in WW II? He died in March 1946 in Hohenschäftlarn, but I am not sure. Thanks! Edited November 2, 2021 by Deutschritter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Perhaps Hermann Historica is in position of contact you with the Family of Dr von Niedner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Niedner, Otto Gustav * 25.05.1869 in Rüdersdorf, Niederbarnim 30.07.1895 Promotion zum Dr.med. (Univ. Breslau) 16.06.1913 in den preußischen Adelstand erhoben Is there any actual evidence (such as an Urkunde) that the 1939 EK 1 is his, and not another family member's, such as his son Hans Otto (*1910)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackcowboyBS Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Dave Danner said: Niedner, Otto Gustav * 25.05.1869 in Rüdersdorf, Niederbarnim 30.07.1895 Promotion zum Dr.med. (Univ. Breslau) 16.06.1913 in den preußischen Adelstand erhoben Is there any actual evidence (such as an Urkunde) that the 1939 EK 1 is his, and not another family member's, such as his son Hans Otto (*1910)? Good question, if the EK1 from 1939 is his, he should have the repeating clasp and not the cross it self. I can also add the following informations: He was awarded the knights cross 2. class of the HdL in 1902, the Knights cross 1. class in 1914. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutschritter Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) Thank you, Gentlemen, and yes, very good questions. But not many answers from Hermann Historica. Was son Hans Otto also a Sanitätsoffizier? He supposedly also had the Franz Joseph-Orden (https://www.lotsearch.de/lot/dr-otto-von-niedner-leibarzt-kaiser-wilhelms-ii-kaiserlich-50788855). Maybe we can find some better pictures of him? It could also be, that Wilhelma von Niedner (1916–2021), who married the later Fregattenkapitän Kurt Reitsch (brother of Hanna Reitsch), was his daughter?! Edited November 3, 2021 by Deutschritter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutschritter Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) This is what I have put together, but surely I am missing some, maybe a higher grade of the ROA in WW I? Zentenarmedaille, 1897 Orden Heinrichs des Löwen, Ritter II. Klasse (BrH3b), 1902 Fürstlich Schaumburg-Lippischer Hausorden, Ehrenkreuz III. Klasse (SLH3) Roter Adlerorden, IV. Klasse im Februar 1905 Vermählungsmedaille 1905 des herzoglichen Hauses Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha ... see Deutscher Ordens-Almanach, 1908, S. 1073 Militärverdienstorden (Bayern), IV. Klasse (BMV4) Albrechts-Orden, Ritterkreuz I. Klasse mit der Krone (SA3a.mKr) Erlöser-Orden, Ritter des goldenen Kreuzes (GE3) Orden Isabellas der Katholischen, Komturkreuz II. Klasse (SJ2b) Verdienstorden Philipps des Großmütigen, Ritterkreuz I. Klasse (HP3a) Krone zum Roten Adlerorden IV. Klasse Siamesischer Weißer Elefantenorden, Offizierkreuz (SE4) Rote Kreuz-Medaille (Preußen), III. Klasse Orden vom Zähringer Löwen, Ritterkreuz II. Klasse mit Eichenlaub (BZ3bmE) Orden der Eisernen Krone (Österreich), Ritter III. Klasse (ÖEK3) Herzoglich Sachsen-Ernestinischer Hausorden, Komturkreuz II. Klasse (HSH2b) Orden der Württembergischen Krone, Ritterkreuz (WK3) Erlöser-Orden, Kommandeurkreuz (GE2b) Kronenorden (Belgien), Offizierkreuz (BKO3) am 25. Oktober 1910 Franz-Joseph-Orden, Komturkreuz ohne Stern (ÖFJ2b) Leopoldsorden (Belgien), Kommandeurkreuz (BLII.2b/BL2b) Königlicher Hausorden von Hohenzollern, Ritterkreuz Fürstlich Hohenzollern'sches Ehrenzeichen, Ehrenkreuz III. Klasse mit der Krone (HEK3mKr) Greifenorden, Ehrenkreuz (MG2c) Ritterorden der hl. Mauritius und Lazarus, Offizierkreuz (JM4) Wasa-Orden, Kommandeurkreuz II. Klasse (SW2b) Orden vom Zähringer Löwen, Ritterkreuz I. Klasse (BZ3a) Verdienstorden vom Heiligen Michael, III. Klasse (BM3) Rumänisches Sanitäts-Verdienst-Kreuz mit Krone (Meritul Sanitar 1913) Orden der Eisernen Krone (Österreich), Ritter II. Klasse (ÖEK2), Oktober 1913 Preußischer Kronenorden, III. Klasse Orden Heinrichs des Löwen, Ritterkreuz I. Klasse (BrH3a), 1914 Eisernes Kreuz (1914), II. und I. Klasse ... I. Klasse 1917 (see Breslauer Hochschul-Rundschau, VIII. Jahrgang, Nr. 9, Dezember 1917) Königin-Maria-Kreuz, III. Klasse in Bronze Roter Adlerorden, III. Klasse mit der Schleife Franz-Joseph-Orden, Komturkreuz mit Stern (ÖFJ2a), 1915 ... see Hof- und Staats-Handbuch der Österreichisch-Ungarischen Monarchie für das Jahr 1918, S. 273 Preußischer Kronenorden, II. Klasse mit Schwertern Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges Edited November 4, 2021 by Deutschritter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 The 1918 Prussian Court and State Handbook shows him with the Roter Adlerorden 3. Klasse mit der Schleife. Other than the KO2X, which you already have, it does not show his other war decorations. The entry is even missing many of the pre-war German state awards in the rank list entry you have above. The 1918 Court and State does not list non-German awards at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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