bigjarofwasps Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 Have contacted the Royal Mint, requesting clarification as to what’s actually intended to happen with regards the issuing of police LSGC’s post 8th September. My request has been acknowledged and forwarded on to the relevant department….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 Saw this on another forum, thought it might be of interest? Thread related to the new Border Agency LSGC. Although this medal was authorised earlier this year and draft images show it with the Queen’s effigy. It now appears that it won’t be issued until spring 2023, and will go straight to the King’s effigy… “Just seen a letter stating that the medal will start to be presented in Spring 2023 "...as soon as the portrait of the new King on the Medal has been confirmed and the Royal Mint has done its work.” *Not sure about the choice in colours for the ribbon mind 🤢. https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/820733/response/1975887/attach/2/67821 G Loughney Response.pdf?cookie_passthrough=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megan Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 A proud display of a lifetime of service. Congratulations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu_00 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 On 19/12/2022 at 09:53, Zulu_00 said: If this link is correct, it would appear that medals bearing the King’s effigy have in fact now begun to be minted? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_New_Year_Honours Does anyone know the exact date as to when these will physically presented? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 12 hours ago, bigjarofwasps said: If this link is correct, it would appear that medals bearing the King’s effigy have in fact now begun to be minted? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_New_Year_Honours Does anyone know the exact date as to when these will physically presented? https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/new-year-honours-list-2023-home-office/new-year-honours-2023-the-kings-police-medal-for-distinguished-service-accessible?fbclid=IwAR2Qc27YBEeG527TUKCXsvon4nOzcL31izgiVETAFEFLZNJDzI3rlCbtY5Y Look forward to seeing the first photos of this new medal!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu_00 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Have heard that the BEM is the first medal with the CIIIR effigy but have not seen any yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted January 5, 2023 Author Share Posted January 5, 2023 On 04/01/2023 at 09:50, Zulu_00 said: Have heard that the BEM is the first medal with the CIIIR effigy but have not seen any yet. Looking forward to seeing this and indeed all the new medals, which will potentially contain the King’s effigy. It is curious that all these awards have been announced, yet no photographs appear to yet exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 I attempted to seek clarification from the Royal Mint under FOI request, and received a very curious response. Which I don’t really understand? Dear FOI, I qualified for my LSGC on the 14th October this year. My question is thus, given my qualification date, will my medal have our new King’s effigy on it, or our former Queen’s effigy? Kind regards, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. Dear XXXXXXXXXXXXX. We don’t hold any further information in this regard unfortunately. It will be the Police, as issuing authority, who will, we imagine, have a policy on this so you may wish to direct your request to them. Regards FOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 https://www.polfed.org/news/latest-news/2023/additional-service-bar-for-police-long-service-and-good-conduct-medal/ This paragraph is particularly interesting…. The Royal Mint is currently in the process of redesigning a number of medals to display the image of King Charles III which could lead to delay for those eligible for a bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 The delays at the Royal Mint, compounded by bureaucracy like this aren’t helping the situation, in relation to the distribution of medals….. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/king-charles-honour-nuclear-test-29070465.amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted February 13, 2023 Author Share Posted February 13, 2023 Worcestershire Medals, who produce miniature medals by Royal accord, have confirmed that no miniature medals have yet been produced bearing the King’s effigy. There is also no information available, as to when this might be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerrig-Man Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 .......................or not as the case appear to be? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 Have heard from several unrelated sources now, that the delay in producing new medals. Is down to the fact that the Royal Mint have not, been given a formal effigy by the palace, to use on medals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu_00 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Newly issued CD with an EIIR effigy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 On 21/02/2023 at 16:01, Zulu_00 said: Newly issued CD with an EIIR effigy. This medal was posted on social media, it had been sent to a medal mounting company. I thought it might be interesting for the following reasons…… The recipient is from CNC. He qualified for his medal in December, and has recently been awarded it prior to him retiring. Assuming that the correct criteria has been adhered to, and the application was made to the Royal Mint on or after the qualification date. This would appear to be clear evidence of (a) how quickly the RM can turn around medals when they want to, and (b) their currently still using the E11R effigy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Wilkinson Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) The King has apparently made it known that stocks (of anything?) are not to be destroyed simply because they bear the image of the late Queen or her Cipher. They are all to be used prior to any new versions are produced bearing his image etc. He's told Royal Mail that they must use all their stocks of old issue EIIR stamps before commencing to use those showing his image. It seems obvious that this also applies to medals. "King’s Effigy on medals, to be issued imminently". This thread was started on 4th October 2022. I don't think so any time soon! Edited March 3, 2023 by Dave Wilkinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 03/03/2023 at 09:44, Dave Wilkinson said: The King has apparently made it known that stocks (of anything?) are not to be destroyed simply because they bear the image of the late Queen or her Cipher. They are all to be used prior to any new versions are produced bearing his image etc. He's told Royal Mail that they must use all their stocks of old issue EIIR stamps before commencing to use those showing his image. It seems obvious that this also applies to medals. "King’s Effigy on medals, to be issued imminently". This thread was started on 4th October 2022. I don't think so any time soon! My understanding, was that any “stocks” of police LSGC’s held were limited, and surely exhausted by now? This article however, may go someway to explain the delays in the production of any new medals. I appreciate that it’s a few months old now, and doesn’t explain why the production of coins by the Royal Mint was so prompt and apparently straight forward. But it is still worth a read. https://amp.9news.com.au/article/fe9e5791-1ea6-418d-a5ce-108f26760444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Wilkinson Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Coins, unless of an obsolete denomination are such that they tend to last and circulate for 60,70 or 80 years (and longer). So, they don't really fall into the same category as medals, stamps, badge and associated items of uniform. The mint presumably have a coin replacement/circulation policy which caters for a certain number of coins to be put into circulation each year. They presumably don't hold stocks and so to comply with their policy they would have to "mint" new coins. So, why not do so using a new die featuring the King's profile? As a aside, such enquiries that I've been able to make with several police forces have confirmed that they have no intention of changing the cipher (where used) or crown on any of their headdress badges in the immediate future. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerrig-Man Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 I would suspect, that every day the Royal Mint dither, the bigger the backlog of medals is getting. Surely by now they should have started striking King's effigy medals? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerrig-Man Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 On 27/03/2023 at 17:19, Cerrig-Man said: I would suspect, that every day the Royal Mint dither, the bigger the backlog of medals is getting. Surely by now they should have started striking King's effigy medals? MOD Medal Office stocks of RN/British Army/RAF Long Service Good Conduct Medal bearing the effigy of the late Queen Elizabeth II - a Freedom of Information request to Ministry of Defence - WhatDoTheyKnow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 First C111R medal 👍👍👍 Could LSGC’s be on there way? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megan Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Wow! At last.... So, major update to my UK section - needless to say at the busiest time of the academic year - to make space for all the medals that will have a King Charles version ready for when they crawl out into public and I can find images that I can use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, Megan said: Wow! At last.... So, major update to my UK section - needless to say at the busiest time of the academic year - to make space for all the medals that will have a King Charles version ready for when they crawl out into public and I can find images that I can use. My thoughts exactly!!!! I understand that this BEM was presented to an old boy, for services to charity. Something along those lines anyway? It was presented to him a few weeks ago now, by all accounts. So with a bit of luck we’ll start seeing more over the coming weeks. Will be interesting to see if the KPM and LSGC’s will start to be issued in time for them to be worn on Coronation day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 On 18/04/2023 at 19:58, bigjarofwasps said: First C111R medal 👍👍👍 Could LSGC’s be on there way? https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-65113207 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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