Authentic 1813 EK2?

[Stogieman]

Can anyone please confirm this is an authentic 1813 reverse? Thanks 

[Peter Cornwell]

Not from that photo I can't. It seems to be an OK cross right enough but not an 1813 piece IMO.   

[Stogieman]

Thanks!

[saschaw]

Without a doubt an authentic cross, but an authentic WW1 era cross, with not much similarity to the 1813 issues. Those had very distinct core designs not repeated for later crosses.

 

This 1914 design, however, is usually found in crosses by Berlin court jewelers Jean Godet & Sohn, and similarly with crosses by the as well Berlin-based Paul Meybauer company.

 

It's a sad thing and a shame some people destroy authentic WW1 crosses to generate a nonsense like this.

 

 

[Graf]

14 minutes ago, saschaw said:

Without a doubt an authentic cross, but an authentic WW1 era cross, with not much similarity to the 1813 issues. Those had very distinct core designs not repeated for later crosses.

 

This 1914 design, however, is usually found in crosses by Berlin court jewelers Jean Godet & Sohn, and similarly with crosses by the as well Berlin-based Paul Meybauer company.

 

It's a sad thing and a shame some people destroy authentic WW1 crosses to generate a nonsense like this.

 

 

Very nicely said and it is sad that those practices are still existing,

[Dansson]

It's a 1914 cross that looks like a 1914 wide framed Godet.

[saschaw]

On 17/04/2023 at 23:49, saschaw said:

(...) not much similarity to the 1813 issues. Those had very distinct core designs (...)

Here's a prime example of what an authentic 1813 cross roughly should look like. Of course, there are variations as well, but the general design of the cast iron core won't differ too much...

 

[Stogieman]

Thank you, over the years I have only owned one. Even had the documents to go with it. But I’ve lost my photo archives so I’m flying blind now without this forum. I think all of you for your help!

[Graf]

16 hours ago, saschaw said:

Here's a prime example of what an authentic 1813 cross roughly should look like. Of course, there are variations as well, but the general design of the cast iron core won't differ too much...

 

Thank you for posting  It make thing much clearer