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    35 Karl Truppen Kreuz and counting. KTK.


    Farkas

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    On 08/10/2023 at 01:04, Carlo said:

    It will probably have been an officer who was not happy to have the same decoration as the troop and would have had it personalized, as happened with the kanonenkreuz


    One of the things I like about these is the fact they were the same for all ranks but having said that this is very cool.

    A bit like the aluminium version 👇  I guess this would be post war? or maybe period but made to be worn with dress uniform? Either way. I agree. Seems just a bit too flash for a simple soldiers frontline wear but who knows.

     

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    Cheers

    tony 🍻

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    Hello Gents,

     

    I’m usually up overnight at least 2 nights a week, if I can I spend them on here learning a little bit more.

    But all to often I get a bit of an OCD type fixation especially when I feel the answer is somewhere waiting to be found.

    For this topic, I’ve spent months on and off trying to ID all the makers on the list I found elsewhere, with some success but still not all of them. Hence the big pause. I struggle with the thought of giving up… or did!
    With help, I have identified all the makers that I have examples of. So until I have got any additional one or someone else posts on here another mark that they have… F’ the others on that previous list.

     

    So I have offered myself, and accepted, a compromise. 🤝

    A new list.

    A GMIC list.

    Verified with examples.

     


    Amongst mine I have 7 different makers marks.

    1. ☘️ (clover symbol) 

    2. FA

    3. GW

    4. HMA

    5. JC

    6. MKT

    7. W&A

     

    1. ☘️ (clover symbol) 

    The clover symbol was used by BSW.

    BRÜDER SCHNEIDER A.G WIEN

    2. FA

    FRANZ ADLER METALLWARENFABRIK

    3. GW

    GYORFFY ES WOLF FEMIPARI RT.

    4. HMA

    HAUPTMUNZAMT

    5. JC

    JOHANN CHRISTELBAUR & SON

    6.MKT

    METALL-KUNSTSTOFF-TECHNIK

    7. W&A

    WINTER & ADLER, WIEN

     

    I’ll leave it there for now, I’d hate to delete all the above by mistake, list with photos to follow.

     

    Any comments, additions or corrections, complaints or other always welcomed.

     

    tony 🍻

     

     

    By the way…

    I just googled JOHANN CHRISTELBAUR & SON and (😡) found nothing 🤷‍♂️ So for now I have doubts about this one (☹️

     

     

     

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    Hi Tony!

    Johann Christlbauer was a well-known producer of high end quality medals, especially he produced a lot of silver medals for local fire brigades of towns and cities. They are known from the end of the 19th century and in the interwar period. I must confess that I don't know, how long the company existed. I will have a look if I will find a medal in my collection and post it here.

    Regards

    Christian

    I just own one: Dienstbotenmedaille des Landes Oberösterreich:

     

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    33 minutes ago, Christian1962 said:

    Hi Tony!

    Johann Christlbauer was a well-known producer of high end quality medals, especially he produced a lot of silver medals for local fire brigades of towns and cities. They are known from the end of the 19th century and in the interwar period. I must confess that I don't know, how long the company existed. I will have a look if I will find a medal in my collection and post it here.

    Regards

    Christian

    I just own one: Dienstbotenmedaille des Landes Oberösterreich:

     

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    Thanks Christian, that settles it for me.

    Corroborates the few scraps I found. 👍

     

    So Gents, did any of you know that Johann is an alternative for Josef? Because I didn’t have a clue 😊

     

    My concern was I found Josef but he died in 1897, too early for our KTK’s. And I was looking for a possible son called Johann or anyone by that name.

     

    Eventually, mercifully I might add, I realised Johann was Josef. Then I found reference to a commemorative medal produced by…

    ‘private Christelbauer mint of Austria’  in 1899, so that proved the business continued after Josef died in 1897.

     

    With Christians existing knowledge of them , then it’s settled, 😁

     

    I like the sound of 👇

    JOHANN (JOSEF) CHRISTLBAUER MINT.

     

    Cheers Gents

    tony 🍻

     

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    Hi Gents,

    I finally got good enough pictures of the makers marks.

     

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    1. ☘️ (clover symbol) 

    The clover symbol was used by BSW.

    BRÜDER SCHNEIDER A.G WIEN

     

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    2. FA

    FRANZ ADLER METALLWARENFABRIK

     

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    3. GW

    GYORFFY ES WOLF FEMIPARI RT.


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    4. HMA

    HAUPTMUNZAMT

     

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    5. JC

    JOHANN CHRISTELBAUR & SON.

    JOHANN (JOSEF) CHRISTLBAUER MINT.

     

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    6.MKT

    METALL-KUNSTSTOFF-TECHNIK

     

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    7. W&A

    WINTER & ADLER, WIEN

     

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    👆 I’ve still got 19 in the odds and sods section to look at , some have markings I need to work out.

     

     

    tony 🍻

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