VtwinVince Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Pretty interesting bar, just too bad about the condition of the White Falcon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 This rather simple Saxon Bar brought 830- Euro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 Wasn’t really sure about this one but everything else they had looked correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 I'm not sure what was going on with that Saxon bar Rick, nothing particularly scarce and a ridiculous price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 I agree, a mounted Ehrenkreuz is unusual but certainly not a rare piece. The other three are pretty common. A nice bar but that’s a ridiculous price IMO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted April 8 Author Share Posted April 8 This showed up yesterday, didn’t last the night! Asking was $2500. Sold for best offer, amount unknown. Beautiful and scarce item! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted April 8 Author Share Posted April 8 On 30/03/2024 at 18:05, VtwinVince said: This cool restoration project is on German fleabay, and is ID'able. Final bid, $4726!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Yup, completely insane price when you take in to account the damage to the White Falcon and the fact that the bar needs restoration and will therefore be messed with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 On 30/03/2024 at 20:01, lew said: What a shame. Sad to see a nice bar being torn apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted Friday at 16:22 Share Posted Friday at 16:22 --- ------- ---- ------- -------- ----- -------- ------ Small grouping --------- Highlight A large Lippe Detmold grouping ----- Highlight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted Friday at 16:57 Share Posted Friday at 16:57 (edited) On 09/04/2024 at 00:29, VtwinVince said: Yup, completely insane price when you take in to account the damage to the White Falcon and the fact that the bar needs restoration and will therefore be messed with. I don´t think so, because I´ve never seen one of the 25 for 1870/71 awarded knights 1st class of the White Falcon on an authentic medal bar. Beside this I only know one other bar with the absolutely scarce XX years service cross of Saxe-Weimar. Taken additionally the current marked pices of an 1870 Iron Cross 2nd class with Oak Leaves and a Red Eagle Order 4th class with smooth arms in perfect condition, the price ot that medal bar (+ ribbon bar!) wasn´t "insane" at all. In the end for me it was a singular chance and I am sure, that such a combination will not come across again for years. In a price catalogue IMHO it should get a *star* for "fancy price". And yes, I messed with it 😱 Edited Friday at 16:58 by Komtur 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted Friday at 21:58 Share Posted Friday at 21:58 Komtur, I agree that this combination is extremely scarce, my problem is that the Falke is damaged and the bar technically is now 'befummelt'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted Friday at 22:26 Share Posted Friday at 22:26 Befummelt is something happening at the Domplatte at 31.12. This bar ist just restored. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted Saturday at 15:55 Share Posted Saturday at 15:55 Restored, befummelt.....you want to argue about semantics now? This Schnalle has been altered, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted Saturday at 17:00 Share Posted Saturday at 17:00 (edited) It was more like a joke about the word you choose. But, I dont get the point. IMO the Schnalle is now, how it was while being onto Mr. Schillings chest. Isn't it? If the damaged white falcon was also changes I would understand your concerns, but dont look like. Edited Sunday at 11:48 by Bernd_W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted Saturday at 22:19 Share Posted Saturday at 22:19 As soon as you swap or replace medals on a bar, it's altered. That massively affects value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted Sunday at 11:50 Share Posted Sunday at 11:50 Well, thats your Opinion. Also in most cases you will never know, so value wont be affected. AFAIK restoring in this way is not deprecated in the collectors community. Might be something different when you change an award because its damaged, or there is a ribbon which was used for several awards and you replace the award to one in your opinion more fitting one without any ranklist indication or you took a damaged award to a jeweler or a dentist lab and its repaired looking like a period work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted yesterday at 09:41 Author Share Posted yesterday at 09:41 This little gem popped up in Germany! Only the second one I’ve ever seen! Final bid was $600. A very scarce medal! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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