Bundesrepublik Good or Bad Ek1 ?57

[Peter1975]

Hey!

What can you say abot this ek1 ?57?

It?s magnetic!

Is it a genuine piece or just crap?

Old or new fabrication?

Havn?t seen this catch before on an Ek1 ?57!

Thanks in advance!

/peter

Edited July 20, 2006 by Peter1975

[Peter1975]

and the back!

Edited July 20, 2006 by Peter1975

[Guest Darrell]

Peter,

If you can jump at this one take it !!!

It is an early '57 EK1 manufactured with WW2 Frames and a Reverse Pin assembly attributed from Wilhelm Deumer. Highly sought after and worth some pretty decent monies by many collectors (including me )

Edited July 20, 2006 by Darrell

[joe campbell]

i'll take it if you don't want it...

joe

[Stogieman]

Hi Peter, looks like classic 1960-70 Steinhauer & Luch. Nice cross.

[Peter1975]

Thanks for fast replays!

Sorry to say it?s not mine...It?s a friend of mine who owns it and he?ll be happy now!

Once again! Thanks!

/peter

[Guest Darrell]

Hi Peter,

Does he have any pictures of the catch from an angle (preferably looking along the pin from the bottom of the cross)? I'd swear that the catch is a Deumer

[Dave B]

I must say it does look like a Deumer,that catch seems to be their usual curly "pigs tail"...another pic of the catch will decide it.

[Grant Broadhurst]

It is a Deumer , nice piece and sought after . I,ve just sold one with the maker mark .

[Stogieman]

Huh, with all the '57 stuff I handled... I thought S&L were the only authorized makers......

[Mike K]

Hi,

Rick, S&L certainly seem to have been the main player from the 70s/80s onwards but they shared the early work with other WW2 firms like Deumer. I have a Deumer advert from a 1958 German publication specifically dealing with officially sanctioned BundesRepublic awards. There are 1957 EK1s that bear their WW2 L/11 marking and 1957 EK2s with "3" stamped rings - ie for their earlier 57er efforts they were using WW2 stock. Assmann were also active at some stage, as there are some marked examples of their work in circulation. Other WW2 manufacturers are also known to have produced early 57er awards.

Regards

Mike

PS: I strongly agree with the other who have stated this is most likely an unmarked Deumer example.

Edited July 23, 2006 by Mike K

[joe campbell]

mike-

thanks for this interesting and useful piece

of information! any chance of scanning that

ad?

these pieces are truly getting the research

and attention they deserve. most of the

info is a few paragraphs as an appendage

in the few EK books that are out there

(no offense, steve and gordon!! )

joe

[Grant Broadhurst]

S & L was the main player in the 1957 market they produced every type of 1957 award from their inception right up to the shiny crap churned out recently .

Deumer and Assman produced a few early awards awards mainly using wartime parts and usually maker marked these were by and large bought by the vets who wanted to wear them .

[DavidM]

Hello

As Grant and the others rightly state, this is a Deumer 57 EK. For comparision here are my two 57 Deumer marked EKs. The EK1 is marked L/11 and the EK2 is ring stamped '3'.

Thanks to Grant for making these additions to my collection possible.

Oh the pictures were taken using a flash so the items don't look quite as good as they do 'in the hand'.

Edited July 25, 2006 by DavidM

[DavidM]

Rear of EK2 and ring stamp

[DavidM]

EK1 marked L/11

[DavidM]

Rear of EK1 and makers marking

Edited July 25, 2006 by DavidM

[Grant Broadhurst]

Just glad they found a good home , and local too !