hunyadi Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 Well at the local coin show today a favorite dealer of mine produced some amazing items (I hope ). First off is the Order of Combat Service, with the award book. Awarded to Agyik Joszef in 1967 Oktober (?) 30th. I can only guess that this is a ceatch up award. I value your opininons on all of it. (IE origianl or a 'made up' one)
hunyadi Posted June 26, 2007 Author Posted June 26, 2007 Sadly the medal is not a numbered one - so it could be a put together set - but the award book is what I was more interested in.
hunyadi Posted June 26, 2007 Author Posted June 26, 2007 Next was a very nice item - a Medal for Valor, in the case with the award book.
hunyadi Posted June 26, 2007 Author Posted June 26, 2007 I am making the assumption that this is the reason for the award?
Bryan Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 Wow, these are some nice collectibles for your collection! A great find!
Guest Rick Research Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 I don't know what was "normal" for awards to Honored Foreign Comrades.I have never before seen a cased (can you show the whole thing?) Valor Medal OR one like that with a special printed page for the CITATION. It says "For courage demonstrated by (redeeming/rescuing/saving) woundsin the Soviet forces in the period of the Great PatrioticWar 1941-1945. By Decree of the Presidium of the SupremeSoviet of the USSR of 28 May 1966 is awardedthe medal 'For Valor.'8 June 1966"The bit about wounds is not clear to me. It's an odd phrase to use for "being wounded" but I don't think it says for rescuing wounded Soviet forces. Loses me, I'm afraid.
hunyadi Posted June 27, 2007 Author Posted June 27, 2007 Possibly for treating wounded soldeirs. There were a number of doctors who were pressed into service during the battles of Hungary. My other assumption is that these may have been partisan awards, for those POW's who were trained at the 10 Hungarian camps and then sent to fight the Germans and alos trying to get Hungarians to desert - however most of these individuals got their awards shortly after the war where due. The other possiblilty is that these men were part of the 'Voros Hadsereg' (Red Army - Hungarian) That was formed in Debrecen in December 1944. However there were only a handful of troops who actualy engaged in combat - small actions of cleaning up small pockets of resisitance.Anyhow - here are photos of the case.
hunyadi Posted June 27, 2007 Author Posted June 27, 2007 Bottom of the case and another shot with the medal in place
Guest Rick Research Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 Never seen anything that nice for something at that level before. A treasure, I'd say.
slava1stclass Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 I don't know what was "normal" for awards to Honored Foreign Comrades.I have never before seen a cased (can you show the whole thing?) Valor Medal OR one like that with a special printed page for the CITATION. It says "For courage demonstrated by (redeeming/rescuing/saving) woundsin the Soviet forces in the period of the Great PatrioticWar 1941-1945. By Decree of the Presidium of the SupremeSoviet of the USSR of 28 May 1966 is awardedthe medal 'For Valor.'8 June 1966"The bit about wounds is not clear to me. It's an odd phrase to use for "being wounded" but I don't think it says for rescuing wounded Soviet forces. Loses me, I'm afraid.Rick, A more correct translation would read, "For heroism displayed while saving wounded Soviet combatants..."Regards,slava1stclass
hunyadi Posted June 27, 2007 Author Posted June 27, 2007 Many Many thanks - is this box a 'typical' type - or are boxes for Soviet items just hardly ever seen?
order_of_victory Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 Wow great find Charles, never seen one like that before Order of Victory
NavyFCO Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 WOW WOW WOW!!!!!Okay, seriously. That For Valor medal with the special presentation book is AMAZING. Hands down the best one I've ever seen! The box is 100% correct on it, and it is AWESOME with the photo. That's just simply amazing!!!The Military Merit is also very nice. It was awarded under the Ukaz for veterans of the Russian Revolution on the 50th Anniversary.VERY VERY VERY NICE FINDS!!!!(no kidding, I can't emphasize how nice these are!!!)Dave
Guest Rick Research Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 Ahhhhhhh, so a WW1 prisoner of war who joined the Reds, then. TWO treasures!"A more correct translation would read, 'For heroism displayed while saving wounded Soviet combatants...' " It's been almost 30 years since I had Russian, and it's getting rusty. Thanks for clarifying the precise phrasing.
hunyadi Posted June 28, 2007 Author Posted June 28, 2007 and my biggest fear was that they were 'yawners'....thanks for the clarifications.
Ed_Haynes Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 and my biggest fear was that they were 'yawners'....thanks for the clarifications.I could drool over such 'yawners' all day, every day!
slava1stclass Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 "A more correct translation would read, 'For heroism displayed while saving wounded Soviet combatants...' " It's been almost 30 years since I had Russian, and it's getting rusty. Thanks for clarifying the precise phrasing.Rick, You're welcome. Happy to help.Regards,slava1stclass
hunyadi Posted October 4, 2007 Author Posted October 4, 2007 Got another one today - just another Military Merit Medal. But what is nice about this one is that it also comes with the Hungarian award book. This is also a Ukaz for veterans of the Russian Revolution on the 50th Anniversary.
hunyadi Posted October 4, 2007 Author Posted October 4, 2007 (edited) This is the page that lists the award - there is just a ghost of a stamp listing the Military Merit Medal, but it is there. You can just see a smudge on the first line in this scan... Edited October 4, 2007 by hunyadi
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