paja Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) The watch belonged to Yugoslav Air Force Pilot, unfortunately it doesn't work. It seems that Breitling delivered watches with some kind of defect as most of them I've seen so far, and I've seen at least a dozen, don't work. I found information that some of them stopped working after first battery replacement. Anyway they were produced between 1980 and 1985 and have ESA Y2 900.231 movement, model is also known as Pluton. You can see pilots' wings and RV i PVO (Air Force and Anti-Air Defence) inscription on the case back. Edited May 3, 2016 by paja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 A few more slightly better photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just two more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 My JNA AirForce Pilot watch: Some more pictures for future reference.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 Great photos, thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogi Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Its been a while for me but just wanted to say what beautiful timepieces the movement inside is a bit over designed for the time and harder to maintain but still a wonderful example of the early quartz movements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 According to information a fellow collector shared with us on another forum you supposedly had to use plastic tweezers or some other tool during the battery replacement avoiding all contact between the battery and the mechanism itself. Is that really true or not I can't say but I've heard stories like that before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 Before Breitling Yugoslav pilots were using Zenith Cal. 143-6 and Heuer 1550SG. A friend of mine inherited Heuer and I had photos of it but unfortunately I can't find them. Pilots of the Army of Yugoslavia/Army of Serbia & Montenegro and Army of Serbia were and I think still use some of the Citizen's Blue Angels models! Some of the models I've seen have pilots' wings (FRY era type) engraved on the clasp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogi Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 8 hours ago, paja said: According to information a fellow collector shared with us on another forum you supposedly had to use plastic tweezers or some other tool during the battery replacement avoiding all contact between the battery and the mechanism itself. Is that really true or not I can't say but I've heard stories like that before... Yes it is true, but that is how you have to replace most quartz pieces' batteries. Especially vintage as it can sometimes get picky in changing them. Metal tools can short the battery, it causes an electrostatic discharge and cause the connection to be terminated, necessitating a new movement That doesn't mean we can pick up any old plastic tweezers, they have to be electrostatic discharge safe. Plastic itself can also cause a discharge depending on what it has been mixed with to produce it. So no fingers, or metal tools. Good watchmaking plastic tweezers. Plastic or Bamboo tweezers (I've always used plastic), there are guys that change them with gloves (handling them with gloves) but I'd avoid doing that, if your hand is too large it will knock something out or worse squish your battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted November 7, 2016 Author Share Posted November 7, 2016 My previous reply very nicely illustrates how much of a watch expert am I Because that's a common procedure and considering just how much of them aren't working properly I presume they have other issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nero13 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 If anyone have one of these for sale, I am interested! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 Not that long ago there was one on chrono24, it must have got sold as I can't find it now. If I remember well the watch was in working condition and the price was 1200$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nero13 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Ahaa ok too bad :/ Any Watch is of intresst working or not as long its jna issued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 Last few not-working ones I saw were in the 100-200 EUR range (prices in Serbia). I still regret not getting one with 100 EUR price tag as it was in very good shape with original box and instructions manual, but alas, someone was quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nero13 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, paja said: Last few not-working ones I saw were in the 100-200 EUR range (prices in Serbia). I still regret not getting one with 100 EUR price tag as it was in very good shape with original box and instructions manual, but alas, someone was quicker. IF you find one of thoes broken ones please contact me. Edited November 21, 2016 by nero13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nero13 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Finally after a year of hunting I found one! So stoked! If anyone have info or documentation on these please PM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 Excellent! Thanks for the photos and congrats on finding it in such a great condition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCollector Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Such a beautiful watch! Love the combination of digital and analog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffy Duck Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 that was very fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nero13 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Big thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new world Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) interesting examples! Breitling is known for making numerous customized watches for national airforce units and teams. Although they normally paint national logo on the dial of the watch. I am curious why watches were not sent back and serviced by Breitling? It looks like serious defect, such high grade watch should be able to handle battery replacement. Edited November 28, 2017 by new world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 Sadly the original owner of the watch I presented in this topic passed away so I can't ask him. If I remember well the story was they couldn't be replaced because of the breakup of SFRY and everything else that followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new world Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 here's similar looking Navitimer 2100 watch, for French Air Force, roughly same repiod. Note logo on the dial - this was common practice for Breitling. I am surprised Yugo Air Force logo is not on the dial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja Posted December 22, 2017 Author Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) Yugo logo on the dial would be a nice detail. Do you happen to know did any other national air force use that model? Thanks for the photo. Edited December 22, 2017 by paja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarinaAnic Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 My dad has been a pilot in JNA and he says that no one was wearing these watches because they all stopped working so fast… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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