alan_g

Shame that the owner has potentially been lost to history.

Hi Spolei, I think it is the Max Joseph Orden. I looked through my 1929 rangliste, and could only find 4-5 bearers of this award. But could not match up the NSDAP 10 year award nor the Austrian Anschluss medal to any of the likely recipients. He could have re-enlisted or been drafted later on... Best Regards Alan.

Yes I like those ones too. It's interesting to see how they switched, swapped and upgraded.

Ribbon bar with the Bavarian military service decoration 4th class. For someone who eventually endured 40 years long service. This is a nice Godet style ribbon bar, judging by the back catch.

Prestigous German ribbon bar with some Finnish decorations.

Another 9 place luftwaffe ribbon bar.

Nice 9 placer to someone who branched into the luftwaffe.

Here is a nice Bavarian bar from my collection. It is interesting in the face it has a 25 years faithful service cross and a 10 year NSDAP award on the end.

Here is my contribution to this thread. Selection of ribbon bars with the Baltic Cross medal.

Very nice bar Paul!

Hi Chris, Thats a nice piece. Is the pin bracket German manufacture with a wooden front glued to the plate? If so I'd say this was field made. After all there is not much point in looking highly decorated as a POW. I missed out on a field made ribbon bar some years ago, it was constructed on the metal of a field chocolate ration! It was crude, but quite cleverly manufactured. Sadly I never saved the photos!! it also went for more than I was expecting.

Here is a medal bar with an incorrect October 1938 ribbon being used for the Romanian Crusade Against Communism medal.

Hi Ralph, There is no 1935 Honour Cross on the ribbon bar, I suspect that it is a modern put together. But made with original parts. Also the precedence of the Flower awards is incorrect, which is a further indication of what i've stated.

Hi Daniel, I too assume that he was a Major during or toward the end of WWI. A man with a long career driven service, well networked throughout German Kingdoms, possibly a military attache or advisor/liason officer of some description. Close to retirement by the end of WWI. I would also say he was someone who dressed well. I say this because Godet made some of the finest ribbon bars, with the best quality miniature devices. (As seen in this case). He would have paid a premium for using Godet to produce this bar for him. Rather than another supplier/out-fitter in Berlin. He must have been quite a well paid officer.

Thank you Daniel. If someone can place an ID, and the history can be researched further we can see if this matches to your evaluation but a good start on it :)

Would anyone like to hazard a guess as to what job type and career of the officer to whom the ribbon bar belonged to?

Here is the back with the exceptionally chunky and typical Godet style pin. The makers metal ticket also shows that it was definately a Godet product.

Hi guys, Thanks for your interest. Sorry here are some better photographs for you: Best Regards Alan.

I have in my collection this 15 place Godet ribbon bar with an array of nicely made devices including crowns, swords, and wreaths. I am hoping that I can get some more information about the awards that are present here and some information about the career of this officer. Possibly an identification too. Thanks in advance. Alan

Nothing at all wrong with your bars Jason. Nice authentic Weimar era piece best of luck with your sale. Best Regards Alan

Catch

Close ups

"There should also be a hole in every space in that sort of (mock here) backing. If no "dimple" under the ribbons without devices.....YUCKY!" There are drilled holes underlying every ribbon. See photos. "I find it interesting in Generation 2011 here as it APPEARS to have the correct punched out catch but.....it is rght at the edge. If it WAS punched out of the backing...it would snap out" The catch is actually bent. There is no specification by the RZM to where a catch should be placed? So I am at a loss on that evaluation. The catch is the correctly stamped out type on the correct metal backing plate. "Also, no HEK3x and SEK4X and Waldeck something silver-with-Xs-trio" All ribbons on 2nd, 3rd and 4th place were entitled to bear the swords devices. According to my book. Ignore the Olympic decoration and see if a more thorough search through the archives relates this bar to one particular person? I did initially suggest better photographs... see attached...

Perhaps the colour of the swords devices reflects the colour of the medals as well as hierarchy? There are HUNDREDS if not thousands of different types of sword devices. So don't get confused or hung up on the idea that everything has to match. Attached are some more examples of different types of swords and an eagle device that doesn't align. The 1st ribbon bar is a cloth backing. The swords are original to the bar. nothing has been replaced or tampered with. Variety is the spice of life as they say... The last ribbon on the bar could be Swedish or Finnish with it having a Baltic cross. There is also a Hungarian award with a similar coloured ribbon also. "Having these bars blown up to twice size in a photo it is easier to see differences, but if someone is wearing them on your tunic and standing a meter and half away…it’s indistinguishable". Like wise for the ribbon bar at the beginning of the thread. As I say it could that the recipient wanted different swords on his state awards than on his combat awards? We will never know the reasons as to why. It's like for example why some soldiers decided to wear mini west wall devices on their ribbon bars, again it comes down to personal choice. Ulsterman if you wish to take a copy of the bar I can email you?

Here is the image of varients etc.