Scowen

Very nice Fritz. This is one of those areas that I no nothing about, but from what I've seen there are some great looking pole tops about.

Thanks for sharing it with us.

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Don

Very nice Stephen, I've yet to find the button hole version.

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Don

A great shot indeed, I often find myself studying the cover of the book trying to see some of the details. It seems everytime I look, I see another badge that I'd missed before.

Is that a Hitler Bewegung I see at 11 o'clock to the SS/FM? If so I'd like a butcher's at that please, & also the justice pin immediately below the Kleing?rtner.

Also, let's see what's in the drawers your wife doesn't know about

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Don

Mine's a 5 as well.

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Don

How do the three makers feel in hand as to weight? I have only one of these in my hand and it was extremely light. I beleive it was a Polleath.

Thanks Robert.

They all seem fairly light (unfortunately I haven't a set of scales yet ), however the Frank & Reif is very noticeably heavier.

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Don

Maker mark

Reverse

There are a number of makers of this lovely little badge.

This one is WD (possibly Wilhelm Deumer or Walter Demmer?), anyone have any others?

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Don

I thought that we may try something a little different here, how about an enamel & membership badge manufacturers database?

Many membership badges such as the NSAD & Deutschen Christen only ever had one maker. However, many of the more common badges were contracted to several manufacturers. Lets see if we can start a database of the various makers & marks from the more common badges.

I do not intend to feature the Party badge as that has been done with great success on WAF, but the H.J. diamond I'm sure could be equally as interesting, along with many of the more common badges.

Here's how we run it:

Start a thread as normal, adding/posting any known maker variants as we find them. I will post the link for it here, so that it can be reached quickly for future reference.

Kleingärtner http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=18511

Opfer-ring http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=7770

Deutscher Siedlerbund (DSB) http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5892

NSDFBSt http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=10102&st=0#entry98005

Reichskolonialbund http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=718

NS Studentenbund http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5140

DVG Westmark (Lothr.) http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=11163

RLB Amtsträgerabzeichen type I http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=11368

RLB Amtsträgerabzeichen type II http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=11331

RLB Member badge Type I http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=11369

RLB Member badge Type II http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=11372

HJ Golden Badge of Honour http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=8141

Arbeits Dank http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=13607

RAD Honour pin http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=13608

NSRKB 40 year pin http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=10114

Reichsbund der Kinderreichen (RDK) http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=11765

NS Lehrerbund (NSLB) http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=14524

Heim ins Reich http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=16439

TeNo http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=18437

DJV Type I http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=18508&st=0#entry178445

DHV http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=18690

DC, Reichsbewegung http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5599

Tyrol Shooting Badges http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=4524

SA Reserve II http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=22954&st=0#entry218205

Reichsbund der Deutschen Beamten (RDB) http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/48301-reichsbund-deutscher-beamten/#entry446652

25 year.

Again Poellath style plate.

Here are a couple of the anniversary pins I have. As you can see the pin plate is the same as used by Poellath, therefore I would guess they made them. I have never seen a marked anniversary pin.

The 20 year

There does seem to be rivets under the plate as in these next 2 images, you can just see the "bump" caused by the plate sitting over them.

Next is Frank & Reif.

This is the one that may be a fake. If it is, then it's an extremely good one..... My suspicians are due to the following.

The badge matches in size (w+h) to the other makes but is very heavy & thicker compared to the others.

I have a feeling that the eagle is possibly cast, there is a distict line on the edge in some places, between the neck & wing elbow/joint for instance, It is not made of the same dull material as the others either. This is a shiny white metal, the whole badge (including the eagle) is non magnetic. The size of the eagle is exactly the same as the other manufacturers including depth, whereas the badge itself is thicker.

Notice the pin plate.....

Wil. H. Deumer. Again, different plate.

Next Ferd Wagner. Notice the different pin plate

The Kleingärtner badges were made by several manufacturers each with their own distinctive pin plate/keeper. There are also minor differencies in the eagles heads/necks, & under high magnification the pebbling & enamel etc. The most common of these seems to have been Carl Poellath who I believe as you will see, also made the anniversary pin for this organisation.

In the next few posts I will show 4 different makers, one I feel <i>could</i> be a fake. There is at least one more maker of these pins that I have not yet found an example of to show here. If you have one not shown, please post it.

First the most common, Carl Poellath

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Don

A good point Joe, & one I had also considered. However, the later dated doc (without the Swaz) has an amendment to the 1934 rules, dated 1935, printed in the cover which the earlier doc does not.......

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Don

Indeed it is Joe, catalogue number 2702b (the red one being 2702a). Thanks for the comments

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Don

Nice pins Gentlemen.

I've been racking my brain for the last hour or so, & from what I can remember, I only recal ever seeing these made by this maker.

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Don

Yes I noticed the change in time frame as well Robert...... Not my idea......

I would guess that you are correct that it would be a leaders badge or an honour badge of some sort. Nice little badge, not seen one before

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Don

Excellent news Robert! I shall leave this post intact if you don't mind as it may help others who end up in a similar situation.

I hope that this hasn't put you off the hobby & I look forward to seeing more items that you pick up

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Don

Very interesting Nick, is there any clue as to it's use? Any glue or gum on the reverse for attaching it to something perhaps?

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Don

Welcome aboard!

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(The other) Don

Erich, you know a rabbit is for life, not just for Easter.....

Lovely pieces, thanks for sharing them with us.

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Don

It's no real consolation Robert but it could well be still in the post. I have found that mail sent to the UK from the US takes a lot longer if it needs to be signed for than if not, in some cases it's taken a month (I'm talking airmail not surface). I imagine Europe would be the same.

So fingers crossed that it is just a postal delay.

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Don