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But two are Messing, one is steel or whatever. May it though be okay?! I thought this was a quite sure sign for a baaaaad one ... I showed one like this, maybe you mean that one ... there are many, but ... hmm ... even much more crap around.

May I get some more opinions, please? I don't want to keep a put together in my collection, but I don't want to destroy a bar that might be good ... Here's the next bar, with the same problem. I think this were the last two ribbon bars I bought for some weeks. PS: I HATE THESE BACKS.

I think there both Romanian, but closer I won't come ...

I was told Mainhardt was the last award by Mr. Thamm but don't know how he knew this ... ?! That's even a city's (well, village's) name in the Black Forest. I wondered when I saw it for the first time, looking out of the train at a train stop ...

Yes Sir, I think this is more correct. Every officer got the medal that served in a Baden unit or(!) was a native Badener but no NCO with less than eight or nine years of service got it.

WOW, that's a great work. Roth didn't work with the lists but with the Staatsanzeiger. That's why he ended in mid- 1918. I was told by mail "die letzte verleihung des z?hringer 2. klasse mit schwertern war am 08.11.1918 an lt.d.r friedrich mainhardt vom far nr. 502.", but canot find this entry in the list. Hope this helps? If I'll see any of the late documents I'll post it here.

In Zelosko's book, there's some information: "Billharz. Feldwebel im 4. Linien-InfRgt von Neuenstein. Silberne Medaille am 4. November 1813, 42 Gulden [335] ...wegen bewiesener Tapferkeit in fr?heren Feldz?gen. ... ad Decr. vom 13. November 1823 K.M.Nr. 10196 dem Feldwebel Bilharz im 4. Linieninfant.-Rgt. die verlorene Medaille ersetzt." So he was awarded the medal for bravery in earlier wars and got a nice amount of money with it in 1813, later lost his medal and got an replacement in 1823 - which is your medal, isn't it? This isn't much but I guess all that could have been found on him ...

Very nice Baden bar. The bar has been from a Thies auction, later was offered by Heiko, hmm ... I should have bought it. ;o) This Hauptmann startet service apparently post 1902, as he has no Baden jubilee medal, so was one of the younger Captains.

Hey Chris, that's been a good choise, congratulations. I didn't read all the citations (only some of the 1,282 are missing), but most medals were awarded for a certain heroic act. Others were just awarded when the soldier was only "eingereicht" (?) for a Small Golden Merit medal but had yet an Iron Cross Ist class (sic!). I think most, almost all had yet their Silver Merit Medal.

Unfortunally, I don't have a medal bar with a Falke, but some days ago I acquired this nice photo (originally framed, approx. 23,5x17,5cm large). It shows an officer of the German Wehrmacht (Heer) who apparenty was reactivated - he has no long service decoration! I cannot recognize what is on his shoulder boards, but I think it's a Hauptmann. He's wearing a cut out "Verwundeten-Abzeichen in mattwei?", an Iron Cross Ist class (I think it may be Meybauer?!) and a really nice medal bar with: - Preu?en, Eisernes Kreuz 1914 II. Klasse; - Preu?en, Hausorden von Hohenzollern, Kreuz der Ritter mit Schwertern; - Sachsen-Weimar, Hausorden vom Wei?en Falken, Ritterkreuz II. Klasse mit Schwertern; - Hamburg, Hanseatenkreuz; - Dt. Reich, Ehrenkreuz f?r Frontk?mpfer. The photo has no name written on it, but I guess the combination of this awards - without any other(!) is unique. Though Hauptmann Erich Linnarz e.g. wore exactly the same awards, but sooome others more. He wears nothing from Baden so he might be sold or - if possible - exchanged against a similiar nice photo from Baden. Anyone interrested might send me an email, but please no PM, thanks.

I've seen this bar - offered by a German dealer, priced in Euro. The price is (in my humble opinion) okay, but for an collector in the US, it gets quite expensive. As Chris said, it's the problem US $ has nowadays ... But well, it's not my problem ...

Yeah, expecially for a veeeery nice Godet bar ...

Oh, it was even a Komtur badge? Should actually cost much more, but I'm pretty sure it was not old enough for our collections ...

Some W?rttemberger liked to wear their homestate's awards in first places, outranking anything but the IC2. I've got a quite similar bar on a photo, with additional Braunschweigers and again, the HOH behind W?rttemberg's long service cross:

Heiko, is the thread starting bar still yours? I hope so ... I found the Serbian cross on eBay with some information, but if these are right and for what it's worth, don't know ...

Email me the names, I'll take a look ...

Depends on you. I'm almost inclined to say ZERO. A modern fake is actually nothing worth ...

The third picture is the same as it has been used by eBay seller "sterog62". He sold yet (at least) three of this order as he offers almost anything he has several times. Please don't ask me why a have a bad feeling with an eBay seller who has barrels of rare imperial German awards ...

It's coppery-colored steel, but though the first two might be okay - the four others apparently aren't, unfortunally. Well, it's been 15,- Euro for nothing but parts, I'll survive it ...

Well, this is what I actually wanted to post until I had the bar in hands and saw its backing. The combination seemed to be a high officer's 2nd row - at least to me - with his Prussians in a upper row. But the backing, just ...

This little treasure came to me just yesterday. Any ideas on it?

Great bars, I like expecially the set, but the MMO is war time, just wrong ribbon used. The bar and bar pin are apparently a set and the smaller one has the right ribbon ...

Any bar with 40 years long service awards is a killer, any. I had to read the whole WAF thread to realize it's a PRUSSIAN long service cross, not a Wehrmacht one. The bar is highly unusual with this and some other things, but my *feeling* is rather good. But - what do the experts say? I hope to come to sleep now, without knowing what Rick says ...

En Sauschwob, lol ... Absolutely NO idea how he made it from e.g. Heilbronn to Mannheim.