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    Stogieman

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    1. Yes, different metals will age differently. To my eyes, the bottom 3 bars look like they were added after the fact. look closely at the pebbled background of the top 2, then the bottom 3.... Look at the age, staining, dirt in the top 2... nothing visible like that on the bottom 3 from this photo. Looks very odd to me to have that kind of difference....
    2. A final note for John..... John, send the AG back before Germany claims it as a National Treasure... I will smuggle it out of the country in an unmentionable place to add to my secret horde in (ha, thought I was going to tell, didn't you?)
    3. Oh yeah..... since the Soviets have instituted a "National heritage Treasure" law regarding their ODM.... and the US has now enacted the "Stolen Valor Act"..... how long before it becomes outright illegal for US collectors to gather anything other than dust....... ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
    4. So my only question is...... Would his Lenin have come with another award booklet? Or, would he have been issued a new booklet with the Lenin and all these earlier awards in it?
    5. Well, I'm really glad I sold out all my US holdings a year ago......... but I feel very sorry for everyone else. I'm surprised at this legislation. But I have only one question..... Am I a criminal if/when my relatives leave me their awards? Is my Mother In Law a Criminal for having a framed set of her husband's awards on the wall? (B-17 CP shot down over Belgium)?? Really??
    6. Well the "goo" that is yellow/brown/black around the center eagle medallion is resin from when it was made...
    7. Just a notation... this is really a Communist Forum, but we think it's a good crossover as the history and the order itself was continued post-Revolution.
    8. Excellent ! Merci de montrer ces deux m?dailles! Etui en plastique, ou cuir ?
    9. Je suis un homme fran?ais aussi. Mais mes capacit?s linguistiques ne sont pas pratiqu?es beaucoup! Bienvenue au forum Michel!
    10. Your eyes are better than mine David, I couldn't even read the maker mark in the lid! It does however give an impression of a round tray in the bottom of the case.... anybody else see this? But the ring (?se) impression looks rather odd...
    11. Greetings Michel & Welcome to the forum! Please feel free to add any examples you'd like to share to all the different threads! or, feel free to start threads on ones we have not started! Best Wishes & Welcome!
    12. Looks very similar to the crown found on the lids of the Brunswick House Order Merit Medals.
    13. And the enameled center chiffres. The quality of this pre-Revolution piece is rather extraordinary!
    14. And here's an example of the specific Knight's Badge of The Order found for sale on the internet!
    15. Apparently, Like the Order of Emigration & The Jose Marti Order, this award pre-dates the Cuban Revolution of 1959 but was continued on afterwards, albeit in a modified version perhaps. Post-1959, the award ribbon for the order looked like this. It is number two (2) in the Cuban ODM hierarchy.
    16. An excerpt from CUBA: FROM COLUMBUS TO CASTRO by Jaime Suchlicki from Part Two - Towards Independence Born in Bayamo, Oriente on April 18, 1819, C?spedes attended secondary schools in Havana and later enrolled at the University of Havana. He traveled to Spain to attend college and receive a bachelor of law degree from the University of Barcelona and a doctorate of law from the University of Madrid. In Spain C?spedes had his first taste of revolution. The Iberian nation was undergoing a period of political turmoil and C?spedes joined the conspiratorial activities of Army General D. Juan Prim against the regime of Baldomero Espartero. The failure of an anti-Espartero uprising in 1843 forced C?spedes to leave the country. From Spain C?spedes traveled throughout Europe, finally returning to Cuba in 1844. The handsome, cultured, and energetic C?spedes opened a law practice and engaged in business in Bayamo. But law soon gave way to politics, as a strong anti-Spanish movement began to develop in Cuba. Narciso L?pez's unsuccessful filibuster expeditions against Spanish power in Cuba and his subsequent execution in 1851 had an impact on the young C?spedes. Arrested because of his anti-Spanish statements and banished from Bayamo, C?spedes began to organize a war for independence in Oriente province. After the 1868 "Glorious Revolution" in Spain, he saw an opportunity for revolt in Cuba and called for immediate revolutionary action, claiming that "the power of Spain is decrepit and worm-eaten" and that if it still appeared great and powerful to Cubans it was because "for more than three centuries we have looked at it from our knees." C?spedes and his group were determined to strike a blow at Spanish control of Cuba. When they learned that their conspiratorial activities had been discovered by the Spanish authorities they were forced to act. On October 10, 1868 C?spedes issued the historic "Grito de Yara" from his plantation, La Demajagua, proclaiming Cuba's independence. He soon freed his slaves and incorporated them into his disorganized and ill-armed force and made public a manifesto explaining the causes of the revolt. Issued by the newly organized Junta Revolucionaria de Cuba, the manifesto stated that the revolt was prompted by Spain's arbitrary government, excessive taxation, corruption, exclusions of Cubans from government employment, and deprivation of political and religious liberty, particularly the rights of assembly and petition. It called for complete independence from Spain, for the establishment of a republic with universal suffrage, and for the indemnified emancipation of slaves. The manifesto was followed by the organization of a provisional government with C?spedes acting as commander-in-chief of the army and head of the government. C?spedes' almost absolute power as well as his failure to decree the immediate abolition of slavery soon caused opposition within the revolutionary ranks. Facing mounting pressure, C?spedes conceded some of his power and called for a constitutional convention to establish a more democratic provisional government. Delegates from several eastern towns met at Gu?imaro in April 1869 and adopted a constitution that provided for a republican-type government. Unhappy with C?spedes and fearful of concentrating too much power in the office of the president, a faction led by Camag?ey's rebel chieftain, Ignacio Agramonte, obtained a large degree of authority for the House of Representatives, including legislative power and control over presidential decisions. This group, as long as it retained power, was also able to legalize the abolition of slavery by introducing Article 24 of the constitution which declared "all inhabitants of the Republic to be absolutely free." C?spedes was elected president of the new republic and Manuel Quesada was appointed commander-in-chief.
    17. Hero of Cuba Star. Established in 1963 and thought to be awarded only 48 times since. Partial (?) list of recipients: Ramiro Valdés Menéndez Guillermo Garc?a Fr?as José Ramón Fern?ndez ?lvarez Sergio del Valle Jim?nez Pedro Miret Prieto Julio Casas Regueiro Joaqu?n Quintas Sol? Efigenio Ameijeiras Delgado Antonio Enrique Luss?n Batlle Samuel Rodiles Plana Raól Menéndez Tomassevich Ochoa Sanchez Fidel Castro René Leonid Brezhnev Arnaldo Tamayo Méndez Gerardo Hernández Nordelo Ram?n Laba?ino Salazar Fernando González Llort René González Sehwerert Antonio Guerrero Rodr?guez Examples were auctioned of in Hamburg Germany, one with provenance. We assume Cuba's highest military decoration. Examples shown appear to have enameled suspensions.
    18. Hi WC, Happy New Year! Yes, quite rare..... I was hoping someone would be able to tell us why! ;>)
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