GMU

As others have said, this is a fake PLM. I am glad you were able to return it

Amazing! Thanks for sharing. Please, please, do not clean the Becher! You will wipe out years and years of history, and value!

Wagner, Friedländer and Godet

Thanks guys… From left to right: bronze-gilt (attributed); silver-gilt (FR 938, attributed); and gold (unattributed)

A bit of blue ...

Oh, I see your point Bernd! Yes, it certainly looks in the 2023 photo that the damage was beginning to appear, although the position is slightly different. Perhaps, it was not obviously perceivable at that moment like it is now and was only captured through the photo. Interesting. I will let my friend know; perhaps, he has other 2023 photos that capture better any damage in that area. However, still the question remains: why has the piece damaged if it has been kept with extreme care without being subjected to impact, pressure, temperature, etc.? Thanks again.

Hello Archie, thanks for your reply. Very interesting your comment and photos about the possible degradation of enamel because of old age. Why does it happen? Are some enamels better than others? What external factors may accelerate this process? Thanks These are photos from 2023 and 2024 The cross has not been subjected to impact, pressure, wild temperature changes whatsoever. The cross was like this in 2023, and the flake on the enamel appeared all of the sudden in 2024 as shown in the photo. It is not light, nor a blemish. It is a real chip.The PLM is not mine. It is from a friend who lives in Germany. I am on the other side of the Atlantic, and this is the only photo I've got. Thank you for your input.

I write on behalf of a friend to see if anyone with more knowledge can help us answer, or understand, an issue with the enamel of a PLM he owns. He has an early Godet PLM made from gold that he acquired some years ago. The piece has appeared on different websites like Detlev Niemann, Weitze, Andreas S Ising, etc. As you can see from the photo, the enamel has a paste repair on the upper right arm. In 2015 and 2020 the cross did not show any additional damage or blemish. However, the enamel shows a chip under the second “e” in 2024. I asked my friend if the cross had been subjected to some kind of force, pressure or hit, or extreme temperature changes, but he says he has kept it with his other stuff and treated with much care. So, what may have caused this damage? Could it occur naturally due to the age of enamel? Any ideas will be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

a lot of enamel here....

RAO 3KL m Kr u Schw. Gold.

MMJO Gold

Oh yes, of course, I was referring to the thread opener and its seller

That is a modern piece of garbage..... What a crook

Potos are not that great because of bad lighting. Piece is made of bronze.

This is mine….

That is correct. Richthofen’s SCG date clasp was certainly unique. It was a 1916 date clasp with two banderoles showing the date and month of the action for his award ( Nov 9, 1916). However, the banderole shows 11 and 11. here is a close up of MvR’s SCG award Regarding the Saxe Coburg Gotha award, I have been able to improve the piece from the one I had posted before. I was able to find a SCG with the correct 1916 swords clasp, but no banderoles ….

Very nice display congratulations. I still need to get an Ulanka from Manfred v Richthofen's regiment. I have an original Ulanka that belonged to Rittmeister Alfred Schmidt, Reg Nr 18. Thanks Daniel, I remember your display very well. Yes, those pieces are hard to get. A long time ago, while talking about my project with the late Neal W O' Connor, he told me that the hardest piece to come by was the RAO3KrX. Wow was he right! It took me a long, long time, to pick up one. Very scarce piece indeed.

Thank you Sandro, very cool and informative. Thanks for sharing it with us. george

Hello, I am sorry for the very late response. This information is what I have gathered so far. J Bishoff's PLM and medal bar: This is the only photo I have of him wearing a medal bar. This appeared in a 1920 newspaper covering his involvement in the Kapp-Putsch. I do not know if he is wearing the same medal bar that came with his estate.

PLM winner Alfred Keller in photo 2 along with Georg von Küchler

Ugly ?

Wow thank you very much! I saw this before at one time but could not remember where. I have been searching for it for many, many years. thank you!