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First Republic Red Cross Silver Medal of Honor
Christian1962 replied to ilja559's topic in Austro-Hungarian Empire
There are no award lists, as far as I know. We have been looking for them for a longer period. But we are sure that were much more awards then known so long. G. E. Schmidt just counted awards which were published in the "Wiener Amtliche Zeitung", but most of the Red Cross awards were not published there. There are only lists of proposals that were to be assessed by a commission (members from the "Bundeskanzleramt", the Red Cross and the "Bundesministerium für Soziales") for the award of honors. Unfortunately, there is no list of which of these applications were approved. If one assumes that the majority of these applications were approved, there were a great many awards. These also affected many foreign citizens who provided humanitarian aid to Austria between 1919 and 1925. I attach one page out of the list for example. Regards Christian -
You may not forget that there were some Austrian citizens who rejected the Austrian state and wanted to join Germany. It was kind of a political statement not to come in for the Austrian war medal. In addition: you had to pay 8 ATS (today about 36 €uro) for the republican medal. Some people wanted to spare this amount, others declined the republic in general. This bavarian style medal bar is an early one. It is possible that it belonged to a guy who fled Austria after the ban on the NSDAP and became a member of the Austrian Legion which was situated in Bavaria. Austrians received the Hindenburg cross only from 1939 on by official order of the local responsible police chief. This would explain why it's missing here. This is just an attempt at an explanation... Regards Christian
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I can add some of mine: 1. Peacetime class in gold with 1914 case. 2. Wartime class in gilt bronze 3. Wartime class in gilt bronze with swords and full enemaled backside as variant. 4. Award certificate. 5. Backside from a wartime case with stamp "BR 1917" for "Bronze 1917". Regards Christian
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"Manövermedaillen" were privately and not official produced over some decades of years. You will find a detailed description here: Ortner Chr., Ludwigstorff G., Austrian Orders and Decorations, Part III Vol. III/1, pg. 108 - 133 https://www.militaria.at/Book.aspx?book=4715040&Language=de https://www.militaria.at/ShowPageNew.aspx?id=637729352612015295 Kindest regards Christian
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Austro-hungarian's orders, number of awards ?
Christian1962 replied to pinpon590's topic in Austro-Hungarian Empire
I am quite sure that there are no correct or complete numbers. You must not forget that a lot of orders were bestowed after 1918 until 1921 by the "Heller-Kommission". Nobody counted them ever. There were thousends and thousends. But a good first info you can look here: https://alex.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/alex?aid=shb&datum=1918&size=45&page=426 There are all members of the Austro-Hungarien chivalric orders sorted by year and Austrians and foreigners. Those who died in WW1 will not be inscripted. The last "Staatshandbuch" was published in April 1918. So you will find most of the awards until end of 1917. It´s a good overview at all. Regards Christian- 1 reply
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It's not a fake. There were many companies who produced this medal - esp. in WW1. Therefore there are many variants. Never heard that there would be fakes of this medal. Anyway they would be casted and not struck. This piece looks very legit anyway. Regards Christian
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military merit medal with "bronze" marking at the rim
Christian1962 replied to dcollect's topic in Austro-Hungarian Empire
It appears to be a production after WW1, especially from 1938 on. They were produced for german style medal bars. You can proof it by the the small loop. Medals produced until 1918 had spherical eylets (= Kugelöse). There is a thread in this section were I have displayed the variants: It was typical for the Vieanna Mint (Hauptmünzamt) to struck "BRONZE" onto the rims. Same for the republican medals of merit. That was onging after 1952. They struck real gold bravery medals on order until the 1980ties too. Those were marked with an "A". Regards -
K.k. Gendarmerie was part of the k.k. Landwehr. Therefore they received the military version of the cross. There were three types of Gendarmerie in the monarchy: 1. k.k. Gendarmerie für Cisleithanien (the Austrian part) 2. k.ung. Gendarmerie für Transleithanien (the Hungarian Part) 3. k.u.k. Gendarmerie für Bosnien und Herzegowina (which was the only "common" for both parts) But they all were part of the respective armies. This changed after 1918 when Gendarmerie became a civil organization. Gendarmerie was dissolved in 2004 and merged with federal police. Until then it was led more like a military guard. Regards Christian
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@tony: I agree with the KTK and would add a "Tapferkeitsmedaille 2. Kl.". Regards Christian
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Verdienst Kreuz....How Low Did They Go?
Christian1962 replied to filfoster's topic in Austro-Hungarian Empire
Franz Kern was bestowed Orden der Eisernen Krone II. Klasse (Iron Crown II.), which was quite unusual. Regards Christian -
Verdienst Kreuz....How Low Did They Go?
Christian1962 replied to filfoster's topic in Austro-Hungarian Empire
No, there were no lower ranking exceptions. The MVK 1. Kl. was just bestowed to officers from GdI/Gdk/FZM upwards. Almost all of them were army commanders. Just GdK Archduke Joseph received it as corpscommander. GenObst Adolf Freiherr Rhemen von Barensfeld received it als military gouvernor for Serbia. You have to remember it was one of the highest ranking decorations of the k.u.k. monarchy, only below Grand Cross of the Order of Maria Theresia and the Order of St. Stephan. Regards Christian P.S.: an example for a "Kleine Dekoration"...