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I note that another two Hungarian Flag orders I have seen out there in cyberspace are (1) to an Iranian Air force general who scampered to France during the troubles of 1979 and lived to tell the tale and have a memorial put up to him on a web site (including his medals and documents) and its on a CV of a Cuban retired officer who now teaches Latin American lit. at some Italian University. Perhaps this was the favorite award for foreign comrades?

notice the button device has a lighter blue ribbon and seemingly either ignores the Centennial or has the Saxon at the back....a clue?

Thanks raul: I'd apreciate any new information.

Raul-what about campaign medals-are they worn by serving soldiers? Also, the Orders of merit? Province medals? I am very interested in Argentine medals.

These are all abbreviations for current army awards-ARCOM for example stands for Army Commendation medal. With valor shows the ribbon/medal devices denoting awards for specific acts and not "general merit". Almost everyone gets an ARCOM for going to Iraq. AAM= Army achievement medal PH=Purple heart BSM= Bronze star MSM=Meritorious Service Medal (which I thought they didn't give out much anymore except to NCOs when they retired). CIB= Combat Infantry Badge etc. etc. A most interesting break down of awards to a unit for a tour of duty. CAB= the combat action badge (new)-now awarded to support persons engaged in combat (before this was instituted only rieflemen etc. got the CIB, if you were a clerk shooting your rifle and participating in a bayonet charge during an ambush-you got zip, whereas the rifleman next to you would get the CIB. CMB= The Combat medics badge-note how few were awarded. see here for the unit. I note they are looking for good NCOs. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/age...my/32in-bde.htm If you email the Battalion Lt. Colonel, he/she may send you some of the citations.

yes-it's an award ribbon, usually of silk hung from the flag top.

Interesting stuff! Thanks gents. This is why I love Hungarian stuff-well made, inexpensive (relatively) and quite a bit of history behind it all.

Two LS awards-or is that a crown order? I note he lived at least until 1935 by the HKx on the buttonaire (sp?).

Argh!!!!! Cry of frustration- Still, fruitful inquiry might be made in financial records-where lists and purchase orders for badges, as well as receipts are sometimes (often, actually) kept as proof of something of value disbursed. Most governments don't give a toss about financial records and I have found it a (boring) but sometimes fruitful back door to information.

nice photo-mid 1960s?

It could be the photo-but the academy badge seems more 'oval" in shape than CD's shown example. A beautiful piece nethertheless and something to look for on Farkas' site!

nice

very cool! more! more!

The only way i can figure it is a Ortsleiter type who was a teacher. Does his one year volunteer in 1899-1900, born @ 1880, high Gymnasium marks followed by the two year degree and teaches until drafted in late 1916,is a Fahnrich due to educational status/assignment, then joins the party in @ 1930 and is part time functionary thereafter. Even thats a stretch as he'd go back in the Wehrmacht to get that KVKx at age @ 62 (as you said). However, there were a few who did that-notably linguists and scientist types. Still, it's a Loooooog stretch to get that bio.

The Provos thought it was eery.

Here's a new one:

I believe this is a levente Sports medal from the Horthy era. One sees Gold versions of these (and they are beautiful and expensive). The levente were the quasi-fascist, military sports association of Hungary-sort of a young mens sports and reserve militia association from what I can make out. If anyone can tell me who and what the back says, i'd be grateful.

...a beautiful bar!

Gunner Curtis was shot dead by a Provo "quartermaster' named Billy Reid, who emptied his Sterling at a foot patrol. Reid was killed three months later on Curtis street.

Ah-thanks. The ribbon bar article actually answered all-really an amazing piece of scholarship there.

Was the Bav MVK2x awarded to officer candidates as well as senior NCOs ?(By the way, for the verbiage quibblers- "senior NCO" for me is ABOVE a Corporal). Oops- i meant 40 year LS.

Yup-and I'll show a few pictures later to give proof- The bar however has some interesting facets. First, there is no army LS medal....of any sort. We know the Bavarians gave these even to war volunteers with double time for war service (Adolf got his Bavarian 9 year medal in the Spring of 1918 and he did not go "regular army" until 1919). First, the KVKx was instituted in 1939 and awarded in larger numbers beginning in early 1940. The state LS medal I believe was put in abeyance in mid 1940 (Rick-do I have the dates right-or is in 1942?). The NASDAP awards were usually made on April 20th, with the paperwork in @ 6 months beforehand (or thereabouts). Your guy with double time for the "kampfzeit" would have been in the party early-no later than @ 1930 I reckon...and maybe earlier as the 25 years awards weren't made until much later during the war. (Note that Himmler's bar @ 1941 in pictures only has the 2 medals on it). NASDAP LS awards I think were also suspended during the war, again I think in 1943 or thereabouts (Rick?) So what's the story of the bar, especially given the Bav MVK2x (a medal awarded by rank)? We can certainly place the bar's manufacture between the halcyon victory Summer of 1940 and the end of 1944....but probably 1940-1942ish. Oh and I think the bar makes sense, for a Bavarian war volunteer middle-class, state employed professional (like a teacher) from Bavaria-EXACTLY the sort of person who joined the NASDAP in the late 1920s and early 1930s (despite the sometimes harsh persecution of NASDAP members by civil authorities pre-1933).

nice tunic and great badge.

Wow!!!! Congratulations. Oh, for a document of that one!!

Thanks Hunyadi!!!