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Sedalzek was also selling (illegally) veterans pieces by 1948. I have seen his ads in old SS vets magazines.

Outstanding thread!!!

I treat any Sedalzek Baltic cross with suspicion. he sold many of these well into the 1960s. indeed, this was used in his ad in the SS veterans' magazines. This type of cross (it may even be the same one) is the only thing I have ever returned to Bill Shea.

May we see the back please? Whats' its dimensions?

Ditto above, but also put the information on the OMSA and OMRS websites and the British medals forum. The latter is checked quite often. Irish medals are easier to track as there are fewer named ones and the name means everything (money-wise). Eventually, they will show up.

Thank you! Now, what can I send to you in exchange? Lobsters don't fly to Hungary very well.

Thanks, but no I did not misunderstand. The medal itself that I own has a different hook system-but ALSO look at it and compare it to some of the others. The definition is not as good and there are some other minor differences (flags/top attachment, patina). Ricks' simply LOOKs of better quality than mine and having seen it, I think it is a better strike than the one I own.I understood that to mean it was a later made fake.

yayyyy!! So, were there different production runs of this medal? Thanks! :cheers: :cheers:

Absolutely!! I met old B men who were in the UVF (then and now) in the early 1980s. Not a few had served in the 36th at the Somme. In the 1940s and 1950s their tendency to "thump first and ask questions later" led to a lot of resentment, but their overwhelming use of indiscriminate force heped snuff the IRA campaign of the 1950s and kept the IRA in check for decades. I think there was ONE(!)Catholic B Special in the 60 years the Bs existed. That truncheon is worth a LOT of money by the way. When they were older and times changed, they became a political liability. Most British were appalled at their brutality when it was on their t.v. screens. Their baton charge in Londonderry was the undoing of Stormont (the first time) and led, ultimately, to direct rule by London.

I thought almost all Vietnam era Purple Hearts (except KIAs) were originally unnamed. My cousin got one unnamed in the hospital.

I thought he was a grenadier too. He might have originally been a dragoon and then been transferred.

Thanks!! Do you also think that our medals are reproductions?

I would also post your request on the British medals forum.

Have faith-one will show up. I know of several good-old-boy gun collectors who have all sorts of tat stuck away in cigar boxes. You never know what will show up eventually. Try a post on the wants forum at OMSA too-Fred Borgman may be able to help you.

Any chance a copy of the Hungarian edition could be found for sale to me in the USA? Any chance you'll do another printing? I'd wager the OMSA would sponsor a publication (eventually).

YOU are the Kivalo badges author? Any chance there's any copies in english out there?

Oh it will. Literally this is what happened to me today. 11am mail arrives. I open box. 11:10 answer phone, randomly open book to page 153 where I read both pages. Think "OMG, I will never, NEVER be able to afford one of those when this gets out". 11:30 go to eBay-go to "BuyItNow" and spend too much money. 11:45 write above post.

My edition arrived today and as I have only scanned it quickly I say " everything Rick said, only louder". I sometimes grasp implications of events quickly. Perusing the 1949 chapter of this beautifully bound volume, the first thought I had was: "Yee Gods!! I don't own one of THOSE and when other people have this book, THAT is going to cost a LOT, LOT more!!!". Information raises prices, because what once were pretty objects only vaguely understood suddenly become fully fleshed historical object d'art. I have watched this happen (much to my chagrin) over the past 15 years with nervous horror. The internet provided a LOT of people (who seemingly have a LOT more money than I do)with a LOT of good information. Some things, previously viewed as bland and uninteresting, exploded in value and desirablity when people learned what they were. As I said to Rick almost a decade or so ago, "WE are responsible for the fact that Gallipoli Stars are now going for $250". If we had just shut up back in 1999 perhaps I would still be able to afford the occasional Godet TH. And don't get me started about Tamara Orders, which in 1996 I saw derided by one famed 'author" on the AOL forum as a "cap badge" and "costume jewelry". I missed the boat on those big time. Charles' book is comprehensive, ground-breaking and fleshes out the background of the HPR medals and badges in a way that many other famous medal texts never did. It makes Angolia's F&F look like a 5th grade school book by comparison. It is probably one of the BEST medal books to come out over the past decade. When people who as yet only have a toe in Hungarian medal collecting get a hold of this book, things are going to happen. This book is going to spark a LOT of collector activity. Now, I figure I have six months to a year to obtain some of the earlier badges and Red Stars I don't have yet before they become unobtainable- forever. I too can not wait for Gordons' volume and volume two and three. Will documents be covered at all? Will you include some of your interviews with participants or will those be used for articles? Well done Charles! Bravo! p.s. Anyone who collects communist orders who does not get this book will regret it. It is MORE comprehensive than the Red Bible was/is. p.p.s. Charles, do you plan to keep the press run for this at only 200?

see post above. Don't know about the EK and FAM. I can't remember if the docs were in the box or not.

I don't know, but I'll bet Jeff Floyd has an inkling. i understand that there is a complete file somewhere of all WW1 silver star applications.

No-definitely not. The Prussian Kreigshilfe kreuz has sharp pointy "v"ed arms on it-much like the PLM. Your man there has rounded arm tops. Can you get hold of the DOL book: "Ehrenzeichen Deutsches Rot Kreuz" (1989) via your library? I can give you the #s to see therein.

The B Specials were disbanded in the Spring of 1970. Their primary focus was to deal with the IRA and its supporters and they weren't too gentle about it. They were almost 100% Protestant. The activities of the Bs were one of the factors (some have said these activities were exaggerated for political ends) that led to the riots of 1969, especially in the cities. I interviewed Admiral Hezlett several times in 1988 about the Bs and coincidentally came across his tapes yesterday whilst rummaging for Halloween decorations in the attic. What does the truncheon say on it?

Yeah-it was wonderful to fondle it all. Oh to be rich! George has amazing stuff wander into his shop almost monthly. The Tsingtao photo album he has now is stunning.

Well, I had a look in my Red Cross book and its one of five orders, all of which are almost identical: 1.Lippe: 25 year years service cross for RK made by Godet 2. Schaumberg Lippe: same 3. Prussia: ditto 4. Prussia: 40 years cross 5. Thuringia: 30 or 40 years service made by R. Conrad/Weimar ..... all these were instituted @ 1922/24.

Very,very cool. I had no notion that Wurtemberg issued these medals. :cheers: