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    Egorka

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    1. maybe this also can be useful: http://www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-18-HMS_Endeavour.htm See the ship logs down the page!
    2. Wow! That is a reasonable price! If only I was not distracted by holidays.
    3. And here is my take on translating the citation for St. Georges cross. I wonder if other reputable Russain speaking members will correct me, as some of this military slang takes some knowledge to translate. - 809616 - surname: LOOV ; name: MAGOMET ; middlename: GIREY ; Cherkess cavalry regiment, a horseman. For distinguishing himself in the engagement on 31 May 1916 during mounted attack on village OKNO, when during the handfight he spoted his platoon officer and two horsemen being encircled by the enemy, he rushed them and killed them all with sabre, and thus saved his officers live.
    4. Hej, thanks for the info! This one, if not a misspelling, is quite peculiar! "last 3 OG III issued on 31.12.1945 - 517.643, 517.644, 82.234" One more argument, that relating to serial numbers for finding period of issue has to be taken with a grain of salt.
    5. Mention of Sergeant Max Thompson in the award decree signed by KALININ on 13 June 1945. The original decoration order for Max Thompson was issued by the 4th Guards Army on 20 May 1945.
    6. Another cavalier of US Legion of Merits order, degree Commander, was Soviet Army Lt. General Vladimir Stepanovich KUZNETSOV (1898-1979). He was a commander of the 40 Rifle Corps. Unfortunately I couldn't locate his portrait with his US decoration on... But I have something interesting too. The memorandum sent from HQ of US XIII Corps to their Soviet counterparts explaining the award procedure and information request to prepare citations for the Soviet Army personnel from soviet 40 Rifle Corps (17 may 1945). Prior to this on 16 May, Lt.Gen. KUZNETSOV was to diner with the commander of 102d Rifle Division Mj.Gen Frank. A. Keating.
    7. The text on the postcards: "Heroic deed by Garros. Zeppelin destruction." "War in the air. Destruction of a German zeppelin by a Russian airplane." So the first postcard refers to specific person - French pilot Roland Garros, who did NOT perform any aerial ramming attacks during his carrier. Similarly, I don't know of any aerial ramming attacks on a zepellin by a Russian aviator in WWI. There are two known Russian pilots who did Nesterov (died) and Kazakov (survived), but they both attacked another airplane. So this brings me to the point: These postcards do NOT depict an aerial ramming attack. I have to say I am surprised myself, as that is kind of how they look like!
    8. The first one is the action by French ppilot Roland Garros. The second is unrelated I think.
    9. Looking good! Do you have the names on the veteran names for the orders 50888 and 172198 ?
    10. Clever!!! Nice presentation. Are these normal frames, which were remade into shadow boxes?
    11. We can skip the call if you wish and just show up at your place for the ceremony. Please, memorise the Russian anthem before next Tuesday. The Wiki page is charming.
    12. Assembly of Full Cavaliers of the Order of Glory, Moscow, 1970. From Rizhen'kin personal papers.
    13. OGI 848 - Andrey Nikotovich SAL'NIKOV (1915-1982). Two full OG awardees. Sal'nikov (left) and Rizhen'kin (right).
    14. The medals are multiplying like mushrooms after rainy summer day.
    15. I would also add, that the handwriting stile in the award booklet is not convincing at all, and reminds me of a a student handwriting from 1990s. Not a hard evidence, but one should also have in mind nonetheless.
    16. Guards Colonel Gretsov Victor Nikitovich (1907-1986) who signed the citation.
    17. Hello, Brian1941 IMHO, I am in doubt... The screw plate is not from such OPW2. The hanging device is questionable by these photos. And finally the order it self. I don't like the sabre guard - too thin. I don't mention the enamel repair. This might not be a problem depending on your collection criteria. I usually don't mind f.ex. if the research is good. IMHO of course. Maybe someone else have an opinion.
    18. Discovered interesting bit today.Regiment Commander KOREBEINIKOV is visiting US 3rd Armored Division ("Third Herd"), Leipzig, 26 April 1945. Getting a tour of M-24 "Сhaffee".
    19. Translation: 23 April 1943. 106 Rifle Corps Command, Personnel Section. To all Heads of Staff. Despite the existence of regulations regarding awarding personnel distinguished themselves in the fight against the German invaders elementary requirements for proper paperwork are still not fulfilled. More specifically: Award decrees are written on non-standard issue paper, carelessly, often with misspelled names. The citation are often filled in inappropriately, with a lot of abbreviations and shortenings, the front side questionnaire is not fully answered. There are instances when the responsible personnel lacks knowledge of order statutes, and often recommend servicemen for an inappropriate award. F.ex. according to statute, the order of "Aleksander Nevsky" is reserved for platoon, company, battalion, regiment, or division commanders. But there were cases when deputy Heads of Staff and Heads of Staff were recommended. There are cases of recommendations for inappropriately low award. Or f.ex. a group of officers were recommended by personnel without high enough authority. There were recorded instances when recommendations were hastily submitted again for the same feats without allowing for proper paper processing time. This introduces lots of confusion and excessive paper exchange. The personnel of the detached units, which are assigned to the direct control of armies and fronts, are recommended by decrees issued by their own commanders. But sometimes the papers are wrongly submitted directly to the army HQ, which lead to double award for same single feat. In all the cases, the recommendations approved by the direct superiors are to be submitted directly to the HQ of the appropriate armed forces. In paperwork strictly follow the following guidelines: A) all the award decrees issued by authority of regiment and division commanders are to be signed by ink, wax sealed and submitted to HQ of 106 Rifle Corps in two copies, amended by a copy of recommendation, and two copies of statistical overview (form #4). The second copy of recommendation is to be kept in the unit. B) When filling in the questionnaire on the recommendation front side the items “position” and “unit” are to be filled in without shortenings and abbreviations; in “participation in Patriotic war” write since what time and on what front; in “party membership” write party seniority and membership booklet number; in “wounds” item do not write the date, sevirity and front; in “previous awards” write previous awards and the decrees # and date; in “home address” write family members full names. C) When approving the recommendation don not abbreviate the unit names, f.ex. “SP”, “SD”, “AP”, “OSISB” and others have to be written as full names. D) Do not stitch together the submitted document. Instruct all the relevant personnel in order to eliminate the aforementioned flaws in award process, which is a very important work. Head of personnel section of 106 Rifle Corps, Sr. Lieutenant VELICHKO Aid to Head of personnel section 106 Rifle Corps, Captain MIKHAILOV
    20. Hello all, Doing research for one of the forum members interesting situation was observed in the paperwork. The citation was written for one medal and went all the way through approval channels without modifications. But the final decree was for another medal. This alone is not something very unusual. But in this case the twist was, that the original recommendation in the citation was for a civil medal "For Labour Valour", but the final decree for military medal "For Battle Merits". This natural raised a questions: "How come?" and "Is this paperwork for the same award or different ones?" Well, the answer is rather simple actually - human factor. The awardee (a woman) was a civilian while performing her duties as typist/secretary/bookkeeper for Army HQ. Her immediate superiors were not properly informed on the relevant award statutes, and decided to recommend her for a civilian award. Later the central award comity corrected the error and issues decree for medal "For Battle Merits". So this story led me to think of one of the documents describing such discrepancies and human factor in Soviet paperwork. Translation follows shortly.
    21. Impressive research!!! Thank you for sharing.
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