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Hi Lilo, first I want to express, that there is no differentiation between military and civil for this award, the colours are depending on the time-frame they were awarded and the degree of the decoration. That I want to show in my first post. Second, I think that there is something wrong about the name of the decoration. In 1931 an Austrian Order of Merit does not exist, and it is not a Grand Cross at that time. Once again: Ehrenzeichen f?r Verdienste um die Republik ?sterreich since 1934 ?sterreichischer Verdienstorden The correct name is in 1931: Ehrenzeichen f?r Verdienste um die Republik ?sterreich (Decoration for Merit to the Republic of Austria) And the correct degree at that time is not Grand Cross (Grosskreuz), it is: Grosses Ehrenzeichen am Bande (Grand Decoration w. Sash) The cross and the cross on the breast star are white enamelled. The colours of the sash are correct in Post 3 for the "Decoration for Merit to the Republic of Austria - Grand Decoration w. Sash". The colours of the ribbon on this website are wrong: <a href="http://www.pinetreeweb.com/bp-honours-austria.htm" target="_blank">http://www.pinetreeweb.com/bp-honours-austria.htm</a> That is my opinion. Regards Uwe

Hi Lilo, Ehrenzeichen f?r Verdienste um die Republik ?sterreich since 1934 ?sterreichischer Verdienstorden The left cross (golden, red enamelled) is: Goldenes Ehrenzeichen or Ritterkreuz 1. Klasse The right cross (silver, white enamelled, smaller than the golden cross) is: Silbernes Ehrenzeichen or Ritterkreuz Please see here: http://www.medals.lava.pl/at/at2.htm Compare the colours: 5th row, 5th decoration 6th row, 2nd decoration Regards Uwe

Hi Jerome, thank you very much, the gents will have a good home for the rest of her life! They are already expected: Rough translation: "Together we are intolerable!" Kind Regards Uwe

Hi Jerome, an interesting picture. There are two pieces in my collection, belonging to this "event" First a watercolour in a golden frame, with the coat of arms of Schleswig-Holstein and a wording like that on your picture "Up ewig ungedeelt!" = Undivided forever! Second a cased medal for the veterans from Brunswick (Braunschweig), fighting in that war 1848/1849 for an undivided Schleswig and Holstein, awarded 1891. Reverse: Regards Uwe

Hi Paul, please see here: http://klub.chip.pl/asnieg/index.html PRL picture (Tablica) 40 and Opis plansz Tablica 40 6. Krzyż Oficerski Orderu Odrodzenia Polski 4 kl. 4. class or officers cross (appr. 55mm), the 5. class is 44mm, 2. and 3. class 60mm, 1. class 68mm. Regards Uwe

Hi Paul, sorry, I don't think, that I'm rude. I'm short and precise. And if I'm hostile, that looks completely different Hi Lilo, sorry, I want to help you, but I have no answer for these specialiced part of your question. But, when he was a recipient of this decoration in 1904, in peacetime, why should there be a decoration with swords in peace time? I can not follow your considerations. The swords are only for merits in a war. "Schwerter f?r Kriegsverdienst". The Grand Cross with swords and the Star with swords that I hold in my hands for cataloging, together with several other decorations, come from a high ranked German general with extraordinary war merits in WW I. Kind regards Uwe

Hi KDVR, please see here: http://pagesperso-orange.fr/lalisse/militaria/plaquesID.htm Figure 3 But there must be a (company) number. Hi Kevin in Deva, please see here: http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ro-trans.html and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Transylvania Regards Uwe

Hi Lilo, where is your problem? It is a Gro?kreuz = Grand Cross Awarded 1904 to a foreigner. The Grand Cross must have the lions and the crown. In 1904 a foreigner with miltary merit for W?rttemberg? No! No swords. That's it. Where is the Star? Regards Uwe

Hi, Streckenbau. Does that make sense? Yes! (Bahn)Strecke = railway line "Eisenbahn Reg. 3, Streckenbaukol. 4" Streckenbaukolonne = a group building a railway line Streckenbaukolonne 4 beim Eisenbahnregiment 3 "b. s?chs. O.H.L., Fernspr.Stat.Zug 1151" Fernsprechstations-Zug 1151 bei der s?chsischen Obersten Heeresleitung Post 16: "Kommandant d. Gesteins-Bohrabt., Marsch.Gruppe 1" Gesteinsbohrer = rock drill Gesteinsbohrabteilung = detachment with the equipment for rock drilling Regards Uwe

Hi Kevin in Deva, "As an example Bavaria's colours were predominantly Blue and White for example." No, absolutely not! He lived 5 years in Bavaria, and such a mistake . The colours were White and Blue . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavaria The White-And-Blue Heart-Shaped Shield" And that is important for the Bavarians. The colours of Pomerania (Pommern) were Blue and White. Regards Uwe Sorry KDVR, no further information about the dog tag, but I think, it is not a dog tag for a person, I see no correspondence with contemporary pieces.

Hi, please see here: http://www.usfava.com/LaborService/ and here: http://www.usfava.com/LaborService/abzeichen.LS.htm Ehrenzeichen der baltischen Einheiten des Labor Service. Die Wappenschilder stehen f?r USA, Estland, Lettland und Litauen. MLS = Military Labor Service Regards Uwe

Hi, it is Deutsches Jungvolk DJ Jungzugf?hrer http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsches_Jungvolk Regards Uwe

Gordon, please excuse, but you must not correct the use of KKB/KKBw markings. You could order and buy there complete tailored uniforms, not only the manufactured uniforms. You can compare KKB/KKBw with other shops as Rahne or Kuhnert etc. Regards Uwe

Hi, KKB is the abbreviation for the official military shop of the Bundeswehr for officers and some senior NCO's: Kleiderkasse der Bundeswehr Later (it changed in the sixties, but I don't know when) KKBw Kleiderkasse f?r die Bundeswehr now it is LHD: http://www.lhd-shop.de/Welcome.lhd Regards Uwe

Gordon, it started in 1962 with the rounded shoulderboards for all ranks and the coloured "underlay" for officers and generals. In red for generals, the other officer ranks in the the colours according to the branch of service (waffenfarbige Unterlage). Enlisted men and NCO's had a coloured piping (Paspel) around the shoulderboard, according to the branch of service. Is there a label inside the inner left breast pocket (look Post 3), that you can date your jacket, "updated" 1962? Regards Uwe

Hi Gordon, I do not know it, but the first uniforms are rare, particular from a general. Your shown shoulderboard is a later "updated" version, because there is the red underlay. The first shoulderboards had only the golden cord. Regards Uwe

Hi, it is a jacket belonging to the "Dienst- und Ausgehanzug" of the Luftwaffe, the service dress. For enlisted men and corporals/staff sergeants (Flieger - Stabsunteroffizier/Airmen - Staff Sergeant). It is the first type of a service dress in the Bundeswehr. The jacket is from 1956, "updated" 1957 with the collar tabs. The shoulder boards should be peaked and not rounded? The rank is Obergefreiter (UA). Airman 2nd Class, NCO candidate (UA = Unteroffizieranw?rter) Regards Uwe

Here is the order, the time line which I prefer: A close view for the loops 1, 2 and 5: First number 1, than number 5 and than number 2? Do you really believe, that the sports organization, the "Deutscher Reichsbund f?r Leibes?bungen", say at the end of 1934/early in 1935 to the producer of the documents, print the documents with the badge with swastika, they told the producer of the cloth badges, that they have to produce the new form, DRL with swastika, and to the producer of the badges they say, make hundreds/thousends of badges without the swastika, cut out version or not cut out version, because we don't know, which design we choose? That is not the way of German organization. And the maker wait appr. 14 years or more, to sell these badges ? And do you really believe, that the "Deutscher Reichsbund f?r Leibes?bungen" had no information about such new in that period produced DRL bagdes without the swastika? Please notice, that I have searched in all the period folders in the Carl-Diem-Archiv in Cologne, in many hundred documents in the era 1933, 1934, 1935 and later. That is the largest and best archive about German sports badges you can find, all the documents from 1912 to this day. Not one document with a note for a DRL without the swastika! Regards Uwe I beg your pardon for my bad English, I could express it better in German

Hi Richard, "It is almost as if a large run of prototypes was made and not accepted." Why so many prototypes? Germans don't do that! Why should they do it, it is very expensive. No, absolutely not prototypes. That say my own experience. "Of those that are post 1945, most do have a MM ..." That is not correct. I have never seen an original large sports badge w/o the swastika (but with the tip) with a makers mark. The badges with MM are re-worked DRL with swastika. Only on miniatures I found post WW II maker marks, on a badge with and on a badge without the tip. "I don't know why they would have received a pin before being cut out as the cut out process surely must take place before the addition of the needle." There is a great number of these badges with the letters not cut out. So many wrong made pieces? That is not normal for Germans. "If the DRL without swas dies were a post war design, there would have been no need to rework the old DRL w/swaz dies." ????? Is it my insufficient knowledge of the English language? Please realize, we are in the post war area 1947, 1948, 1949. At that time they made dishes from steel helmets. Enclosed is first a picture with the order you prefer: Look at the loops, and look at the needles. Does that make sense?

Ah!!! Pieces like this: Regards Uwe

Hi Ulsterman, do you differentiate between DRA and DRL, or do you really mean DRL? DRA sports badges are categorical without a swastika. A DRL without the swastika was not available in wartime. Some soldiers wore in wartime the DRA badge and not the DRL with swastika. Regards Uwe

Hi student, very interesting! Please see Post 42 - 44, and: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=20883&hl= The materiel from the swastika is complete removed and the rest is very good formed! I assume, that the badge is very thin at the marked postion, if you compare it with an DRL with swastika? Regards Uwe

Hi Richard V, "Based on these observations I had always assumed that the DRL without the swaz was quickly instituted to replace the DRL." When and for whom? Do you mean, to replace the DRA? "... a large number do not have the letters cut out and are essentially unfinished." The badges were complete finished, with a complete needle. "Some were finished out, most were not due to the fact that the powers that be decided to add a swastika to the design." To add to which design? Please explain me the time line of the DRL without the swastika, but with the "tip" ^. "There is no post war evidence of wear of the DRL without the swaz just as there are no pre war photos either." I cannot show period pictures of a DRL without swastika in the time frame 1934 - 1945, but I can e.g. present you pictures in post WW II catalogues of these sports badges without the swastika. Regards Uwe

Hi Robert, Deutsche Lebensrettungs-Gesellschaft e.V. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLRG Silbernes Ehrenzeichen "F?r Lebensrettung" Live saving medal Regards Uwe

Hi, DDR sports badge 1951. With number 05645? Regards Uwe