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I have another issue with the order in which Louis wears his ODM ribbons. My theory of him wearing them in this order: Prussia wartime Prussia peacetime Other german states wartime Remaining peacetime Does not hold ground because I think his prewar REK3 is in #9 place (a plain 'purple' ribbon). And as the SLEK4 has a red ribbon with gold stripes (which I would guess to be #8, although a reversed order would feel more logical chronologically), this could hardly be #10 or #11 now could it? The puzzle continues....
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Ah I see. What always surprised me is that someone in his position did not get any Central Powers awards, from Austria or Bulgaria. I found a date for his Iron Crescent online, but never found any proof wearing them. But no OEK3 or even an OMVK or something bulgarian. Dont know if the CPs east front aide von Müller did tho.
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So it would be 1. EK2 2. PZM 3. KO4 Louis career: * 14.03.1896 Diensteintritt als zweijähriger Freiwilliger (18.10.1896 Portepee-Fähnrich; 20.07.1897 Seconde-Leutenant 1900 im 1. Kompagnie; 11.09.1907 Oberleutnant) im Jäger Bataillon (westfälisches) Nr. 7, 1907 kommandiert zur Kriegsakademie, 21.03.1908 Versetzung zum 4. Garde Regiment zu Fuss, 13.09.1911 Adjutant (und 20.07.1912 Hauptmann) der 4. Garde-Infanterie-Brigade, Versetzung zum Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr 261, 00.02.1915 Kommandeur der 6. Kompagnie, 03.03.1915-Ende August 1915 Bataillonskommandeur, 27.01.1916 Versetzung in den Generalstab der Armee, 06.05.1916 persönlicher Adjutant Kronprinz v. Preussen, 27.01.1917 Major, 26.11.1918 ausgeschieden
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Ah I see. Basically Georg had the 'bad luck' to in a hanseaten Regiment as hanseatic cities do not have any peacetime awards. Final question is on the background of the awards. I get the schaumburg-lippe award to Louis being an officer in JB7. The garrison was in Bückeburg. What about the Reuss award? Is it possible to find out the why behind this award to a JB7 officer?
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Hi Laurentius Thanks for your input! PDA is for 25 years right? As his entry in militairy service was on 14.03.1896 he had 18 years service in 1914. There had to be another 7 years of service to get to 25. War years counted double, correct? So 1914 counted for 19 years iso 18, 1915 22 years, 1916 24 years meaning the PDA cannot be awarded until after 14.03.1917. Or did the prussians not count so strict?
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In this photo Louis is wearing the uniform of a persönlicher Adjutant (in his case, to the Crownprince of Germany and Prussia) So at least we know the photo is taken after 06.05.1916. The photo is taken before 25.05.1918 as he is not wearing his PHO3X. I would like to try by means of identifying his decorations, to narrow the date of the photo down further. Easiest to see is his EK1 dated 19.07.1915 Then there is the Leinenkreuz of the Johanniterorden (for which I do not have a date), Interesting to me is to see that he does not wear the neck cross of the Order, which he does wear in later photo’s. As for now I do not know enough about this Order to tell if that is odd or not. Zooming in on his ribbonbar, I think I am able to count 11 different ribbons. His prewar awards totalled a number of 4, so in identifying the date of the photo, I would have to look at the 7 remaining decorations. Am I correct in assuming that as he was a Prussian officer, he would wear his Prussian awards first and that of his Prussian awards, he would wear his wartime awards first? 1. EK2 dated 13.09.1914 2. KO4 dated 29.05.1911 3. ?? 4. ?? 5. ?? 6. ?? 7. ?? 8. ?? 9. ?? 10. ?? 11. ?? In an obvious later photo of Louis, which is not of a great quality, Rick L. was able to see 15 separate medals some years ago. Second photo: 1.EK2 2.PHO3X 3.KO4 4.PZM 5.SAlb3aX 6.BZL2bmEuX 7.BraunschwKVK 8.SLKfTD 9.LDKvK 10. Hamb HansK 11. Bremen HansK 12. ?? 13. SLEK4 14. REK3 15.??