Hi Paul Youre right, I know, as I transcribed part of the L?beck rolls myself. Although I dont feel like getting all defensive here; I am not a collector but a researcher to just 2 or 3 topics, of which my own family is one. So I am not going to buy the rolls because I am just looking for a possible award to a distant cousin and as a researcher have better means for my small funds. So as far as I am concerned, let it be up to the people who transcribe the rolls to decide if the are going to answer such questions and not for others to criticise. It goes without saying that we all (myself included) cannot appreciate the efforts of Rick enough, the work again being mainly based on ideology. Same reason I didn't buy your CD with DOA btw, because I am only interested in the -10 people who are in there with all their ODM listed including the CHWO I am working on at the moment. The other thousands just won't be interesting to my research. Hope you understand a bit more now regards David