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Of course you can fake a lot of things-but paper from the imperial time is different. To old, to dry and even when you find something you can't use a modern printer or even a modern printing press. Not impossible, but really a lot of action with limited profit at the end.

To copy cardbord of paper isn't easy, You have to find exactely the right cardbord or paper.With photos its easy because you can find old original photo paper. But old paper or cardboard is a different thing!

Not really my collecting field, but the ones with the blued core are really an own collecting field i got me this one here.

Don't think that at the imerial front it's any better. You've got do do your homework, built up a good picture archive and a network of fellow collectors. Micha

Well,the cross in Wernitz book has got the identical hardware at the reverse.That makes 2 Zimmermann crosses with thiskind of attachment system-and long time ago I had the chance to buy another one-I stepped back because I thought it was a kind of repair or home improofment....there are two more screwback variations known! Micha

Don't tell me.....

Well.....after reading Mr.Wernitz book (the 1st part is outstanding and impossible to top) I found something in the 2nd part that made me kicking my own ass .A screwback Zimmermann piece(the blued core ones) with a screw and crossplate like the Meybauer pieces. A couple of years ago I had the chance to get one and thought that was some kind of modification....now I found this variation pictured in the Wernitz book....That was the sign for me to do a drink offering to the god of iron cross collecting.And then it happened-I found a thread in a German forum,followed it,found a link to a dealer I didn't know,looked at his page and found one....with the 2nd core variation but that doesn't matter.Now I know there are 2 crosses more on my endless wanted list....and beer is really helpful! Anyway-here are the pica... Micha

No one else ....................?

They had it in their hands....Part one is full with informations about the historical roots of the iron cross-lot of writing about the German history.part two is the so called "typology".Well-I had high expectations about the 1914 Part-and in the end I'm disappointed .For me it seems they had never taken part in any forums,talked never with collectors from the dark side... Micha

Look at the seller-a typical ebay crook! I wouldn't spend a single dime there.. Micha

Well....that looks like a repair

Well-the two Eks from the top of the thrad look like he's butchered some 2nd classes to get the cores-I'm pretty sure I could do that better if I would change from the dark side to the pitch black side! But it's strange to belive someone will bid on this crap.... Micha

Well-if your woman don't like this hobby she's the wrong one for you! But back to topic-nice Meybauers! Nothing wrong if you have them in your collection! Micha

Chris-here it's the core that tells where it belongs to!.Typical type I core that you can find also at the awarded variaton maker marked with "CD800"....But there's a type II,marked with the "square" or with "800"...Or from the beginning-one awarded type,two different cores for the privte purchased ones(one of them the awarded type),pinbacks,screwbacks,double screws....rule braking pieces like a "CD935" with 2nd core type,convex......2nd classes with 2nd core type........a long list to get them all complete Micha

If you have-show us rare crosses made by Carl Dillenius.2nd Core types,unusual combinations ect.... Micha

Deumer family,magnetic core-I've never senn an unmarked onle with this setup! Micha

Yes-a so called "Frankenstein" ! Micha

Yes-far away from beeing a rarity-but still a good EK!

Wow....that would be the perfect upgrade for me! And now I'm sure the catch is repaired....

I know...

I'm not sure-it could be repaired!

I just have the sellers pics(Weitze)-but the EK is here in my collectio.Ugly,really heavy and thick(the casted core is broken)....but I haven't seen too many of them over the years....who's got another one? Micha

To bring this old thread back to live......as I've seen just 4 or 5 of these cardboxes before-has anyone here a piece like this in his collection? Mica @Trevor-the reverse is "textbook" "Fr" like-I will try to get some pictures this week

I don't like this-my consequence would be to ignore this ass**le for the rest of his life! Micha

The seller is registered at the SDA forum and said he just wanted "to get an idea" how much it is worth! One of the bidders is a friend of him-I don't like that and i'n glad that he's not active in the EK section.Otherwise I would thing about putting him on ignore... Micha