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    Elmar Lang

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    1. I might also add, that Archduke Franz Ferdinand was not Emperor Franz Joseph's younger brother.
    2. A nice group of imperial Austrian orders and awards. Yes, until 10-15 years ago, the awards of the AH monarchy had their group of aficionados, but weren't "on stage" like today. Collectors realized how beautiful and historically relevant they are. Hopefully, one day the collectors' community shall realize the beauty, variety and interest of the awards from the former italian states: a beautiful, phaleristic world in itself. Best wishes, Enzo
    3. You're welcome!
    4. The right mark, struck to the right Wiederholungsspange, mounted to the right ribbon...
    5. I confirm that the ribbon, although being in the right colours, is of recent manufacture.
    6. Hello again, the motto "Fortitudini" ("to the valour") appears to the reverse of the Tapferkeitsmedaillen of the type introduced in 1917 by Emperor Karl I. He choose the latin word (that is the same motto of the Military Order of Maria Theresa), to signify that the crown didn't want to put the "German" component above all the other nationalities forming the Habsburg monarchy.
    7. Hello, besides the excellent ifo given by Megan, I might add that the piece posted, is a Silberne Tapferkeitsmedaille 2nd Class, of the type awarded from 1914, until the death of Emperor Franz Josef in 1916 (this type was awarded until the early 1917, when the new dies of Kautsch bearing the image of Emperor Karl I were ready. Re. the size, the 1st class medal is larger than the 2nd class and has a diametre of 40,0 mm. Another sign indicating the difference between the 1st and 2nd class (Franz Josef type, from 1866, until 1916), is that the 1st class bears the artist's signature of "LEISEK", while the 2nd Class, that of "TAUTENHAYN". All the best, Enzo (E.L.)
    8. Hello again, I perfectly understand your words: in the past years, I've also been involved in the activities of archaeological excavation and the cataloguing/documentation of the excavations' results. My late wife (we met on the site of an excavation south of Rome) had a degree in Conservation/Restauration of archaeological artifacts... I think I perfectly understand your points and your observations. Prof. Mericka once said (echoing the words of Oldrich Pilc) that phaleristic can be a branch of social siences and I agree: Orders and Decorations are not what we find in an excavation and they can tell us more than a piece of a broken vessel, but nonetheless, we try to put pieces, fragments, witnesses of the past together and try to understand their meaning, trying to accomplish a task that sometimes is far beyond our possibilities, but at least it's worth to try. Understanding the past, through findings: on this subject, I would like to remember here, an exhibition held at the "Musée Romain" of Lausanne-Vidy (Switzerland), in 2002-2003: "Futur Antérieur", where the organizing committee, led by the then director, Dr. Laurent Flutsch, presented a rich series of pieces from our modern times (rubbish, mostly), broken cups, fragments of computers, buttons, etc., all artificially aged (in a very convincing way!) to look like being 1.000 or 2.000 years old: everything put in showcases with accurate descriptions explaining how archaeologists interpreted those artifacts. The exhibition, was accompanied by a very well made catalogue, where the very seriously and professionally written descriptions, were humourous or hilarious for us knowing what the artifacts on exhibit actually were. In the truth, that exhibition, besides its success, was an invitation to think about the scientifical approach to the past. Excuse me for the off-topic, Enzo
    9. Hello, this discussion about the badge of the Mixed Courts in the Khedivate/Kingdom of Egypt is, under the phaleristic/historical point of view, one of the finest I've ever read on the web and I'm feeling honoured for the very limited, little contribution I've been able to give in it, with my Froment-Meurice badge. My field of Interest is the Austro.Hungarian monarchy, seen through its orders and decorations, but I think that feeling oneself open to research and study and discuss also in other topics and fields, helps to better understand the whole picture of a world that disappeared leaving us "fragments" only, that can be small doors or, better, the keys allowing us to open doors to the past. Knowing our past better, helps to better understand what we are now and how to try being a better people in the future we're going to leave to our children. Many, many warm thanks again, Enzo (E.L.)
    10. An interesting piece, struck with the official dies, silvered and correctly struck with the "BRONZE" mark. Curiously, a piece comparatively rarer than a proper, silver medal of the same model. Best wishes, Enzo
    11. Hello, the "Campagne d'Africa" Medal, bearing the "SPERANZA" name under King Humbert I's bust, is the official, award type. Any other variation has to be considered as being for private purchase, produced by various firms, after the authorized type/model. All the best, Enzo
    12. No matter how long since when one started collecting, it's always a fantastic travel through times and history. My first Imperial Austrian pieces, were those earned by my grandfather (from my mother's side) in WW1, while my first purchased medal, was a Verwundetenmedaille of a fine version for private purchase, stamped "BRONZE" to the rim: I was 13 years old and I can feel the same emotion of that day now that I'm 66... and some more pieces in my drawers. I've always enjoyed collecting, not necessarily by accumulating pieces, but for the pleasure of researching, studying, give an historical frame to the pieces found in the course of time; by meeting people, discussing pieces, confronting thoughts and opinions. I'll never forget the visit to the Heeresgeschichtliches Museum in Vienna with my late father, both of us accompanied by Dr. Franz Kaindl, then curator of the faleristic collections, in the second half of the 70s. He was generous of precious informations and kind enough to open some showcases: showing a Militärverdienstkreuz I Klasse-KD, I replied "my dream would be having one like this, one day..."; his reply was not much encouraging: "...and it will remain a dream, my dear boy!". And I cannot forget the immense kindness of Prof. Fattovich, who honoured me, by sharing his deep knowledge. After all these years, I'm not yet neither bored, or discouraged and each time I can study an old, Austrian award, it's the same joy as in the past. I repeat, the pleasure of collecting is not only in the pieces we are able to acquire, but in all that's around! All the best, Enzo
    13. It looks a piece of the award type, because I think there is the signature "SPERANZA" under the King's bust. The naming appears as correctly done, at least from what I can see in the provided pictures and this is presumably his citation. All data appear as corresponding. (from the book of Vito Zita "Il Coraggio degli Ascari", 2014, page 994). All the best, Enzo (E.L.)
    14. As said in another thread, opened about this medal, it is not an officially instituted medal, but an old, fantasy piece, as explained in my reply given in the mentioned thread. All the best, Enzo
    15. Hello, it is an unofficial medal, struck with the obverse of the Militärverdienstmedaille "Signum Laudis" and the reverse resembling that of a 1780 coin from the Holy Roman Empire. By the way, Emperor Franz Josef was born well later than 1780. best wishes, Enzo
    16. Good luck to the happy buyer. From what I can see in the pictures, it is an unofficially struck piece, made for private purchase at an undefined date between 1914 and well after WW1, to which an "old style" suspension was added. Best wishes, E.L.
    17. I congratulate for having been successful in finding a decoration that has a deep, historical significance. with time and patience, you could try finding one with its original ring, green lacquer finish and, rare but not impossible, its proper ribbon. All the best, Enzo
    18. I don't have the experience of Dr. Ludwigstorff of course, but I've had the opportunity to see many pieces of the MMTO in all its classes, and from the origins to 1918 (and later...), besides the few pieces I humbly own of this Order, in my collection. Messrs. Resch were extremely skilled jewelers, working at the highest level and quality and I think that they wouldn't have put their maker's signature on a piece of which they would have been just retailers. This cross doesn't resemble the manufacture of any other maker of orders whose activity could have been known in the 1840-1860 period, from whom Resch could have ordered the making of a piece. I can conclude that not existing a proof that this cross wasn't made by Resch, reading their engraved signature to the ring's inside, suggests that the piece was actually made by the then well-known firm from Kohlmarkt, Vienna. Best wishes, E.L.
    19. A very nice, generic case of Austrian typology. The correct case for the Kriegsmedaille 1873 is of dark brown leather, with "Kriegs-Medaille" embossed on the lid. It is possible that retailers could have sold the medal in anonymous cases too. Best wishes, Enzo
    20. It is a nice combination ribbon from the immediate post-1849 years, to be mounted on a then also called as "Mode-Spange", where usually on the bar the highest order was presented as an enameled miniature, placed to the centre of the bar itself. This bar shows the Imperial Austrian Order of the Iron Crown; the French Order of the Legion of Honour (from the Restauration, presumably), the Metallenes Armeekreuz a.k.a. "Kanonenkreuz" and the "Militärdienstzeichen für Offiziere". this last one, introduced in 1849. Just to add a little pictorial addition to this discussion, I would like to post the image of an Austrian "Mode-Spange" with combined ribbon, from my own collection. The reverse is struck with maker's and gold marks for the year 1805. All the best, Enzo
    21. Hello, the medal appearing in the picture is not an official piece, but a piece for private puchase; the ribbon looks old, but wrong, being the one for the Cross for Military Merit, also used for the Cross for Military Valour (in that case, with a horizontally pinned, bronze gladium). All the best, E.L.
    22. It is the Commemorative medal for the presence of the Crown Prince Umberto in Littoria, to honour the soldiers leaving from the city and province of Littoria (now Latina), to the Ethiopian campaign. It was struck in gold, silver and bronze. All the best, Enzo
    23. Hello, nice pieces indeed. The MMTO is a well-made, post WW2 copy. Not made by Rothe for sure, but nice looking anyway. The golden medal of Kaiser Karl is not for "Merit" but for "Valour". Is there any mark struck to the rim? All the best, Enzo (E.L.)
    24. Always glad to be at your disposal! All the best, Enzo
    25. Hello again, Thank you all for the kind words. Re. the Franz Joseph Orden, honestly I would pass on it and spare those 680,- Euro for something else. The cross itself looks like a piece probably made by Mayer's Söhne, Vienna (although no maker's mark appears as having been struck to the round ring, passing through the crown's orb and the overall quality looks like being less accurate than what would be to expect even from a gilt-bronze piece made by Mayer). The long, grooved, tapering ribbon ring is typical of the awards made by Messrs. Johnson, Milan, Italy, from the early 50s of 20th Century onwards. Best wishes, Enzo
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