Dave Danner

According to a footnote, the casualty number for b.RIR 12 was "Gem. Mitteilung v. Herrn .v. Stein vom 30.4.1998". There are 8281 entires in the Verlustliste database for the regiment. Taking into account that units were not listed in the Verlustlisten from December 1916 to December 1918, you are likely correct that this was total casualties including wounded. Regarding the ratios, small sample size could play a role. How many gold MVM recipients were previous recipients of the silver MVM? If ten or a dozen or so silver MVM recipients in a particular regiment were killed before they had a chance to be considered for the gold, that would throw the ratio off. Maybe see how many of the 59 silver MVM recipients in b.RIR 2 were KIA?

Here is an example from his personnel file:

Below are casualty numbers for the Bavarian RIRs given in Busche's Formationsgeschichte der Deutschen Infanterie. Bay. RIR 12 seems to have had significantly more casualties than the others. b.RIR 1 - 53 Offz., 2700 Uffz. u. Mannsch. b.RIR 2 - 61 Offz., 3211 Uffz. u. Mannsch. b.RIR 3 - ? b.RIR 4 - 49 Offz., 2824 Uffz. u. Mannsch. b.RIR 5 - ca. 3200 Offz., Uffz. u. Mannsch. b.RIR 6 - 60 Offz., 2348 Uffz. u. Mannsch. b.RIR 7 - 63 Offz., 2622 u. Mannsch. b.RIR 8 - ca. 2350 Offz., Uffz. u. Mannsch. b.RIR 10 - 61 Offz., 3075 Uffz. u. Mannsch. b.RIR 11 - ? b.RIR 12 - 178 Offz., 9688 Uffz. u. Mannsch. b.RIR 13 - 84 Offz., 4600 Uffz. u. Mannsch. b.RIR 14 - ? b.RIR 15 - ? b.RIR 16 - 78 Offz., 3676 Uffz. u. Mannsch. b.RIR 17 - 38 Offz., 3676 Uffz. u. Mannsch. b.RIR 18 - 41 Offz., 2232 Uffz. u. Mannsch. b.RIR 19 - 27 Offz., 1730 Uffz. u. Mannsch. b.RIR 20 - ? b.RIR 21 - 74 Offz., 3600 Uffz. u. Mannsch. b.RIR 22 - ? b.RIR 23 - 37 Offz., 2138 Uffz. u. Mannsch.

Here is a break-down for the Ritterkreuz of the Militär-Max-Joseph-Orden. The ILR is at the top of the list. After that, the regular and reserve infantry regiments, as well as Jäger, are pretty mixed. It's a bit surprising that only 2 of 140 awards went to Landwehr infantry regiments. Infanterie/Jäger (140) Sonstiges u. höhere Stäbe (57) Feldartillerie (25) Fliegertruppe (11) Kavallerie (7) Fußartillerie (4) Kaiserliche Marine (4) Pioniere (4) Nachrichtentruppe (1) Infanterie/Jäger (in order of number of awards) 11 - ILR 8 - 3.b.IR 7 - 4.b.IR 6 - 1.b.IR 5 - b.RIR 18 4 - 11.b.IR 4 - b.RIR 1 4 - b.RIR 12 4 - b.RIR 2 4 - b.RJB 1 3 - 16.b.IR 3 - 18.b.IR 3 - 2.b.JB 3 - 10.b.IR 3 - 24.b.IR 3 - b.RIR 10 3 - b.RIR 13 3 - b.RIR 5 2 - 1.b.JB 2 - 17.b.IR 2 - 19.b.IR 2 - 22.b.IR 2 - 23.b.IR 2 - 6.b.IR 2 - 9.b.IR 2 - b.RIR 15 2 - b.RIR 20 2 - b.RIR 21 2 - b.RIR 22 2 - b.RIR 23 2 - b.RIR 3 2 - b.RIR 6 2 - b.RIR 7 2 - b.RIR 8 2 - JägR 3 1 - 13.b.IR 1 - 15.b.IR 1 - 2.b.IR 1 - 20.b.IR 1 - 21.b.IR 1 - 26.b.IR 1 - 27.b.IR 1 - 31.b.IR 1 - 32.b.IR 1 - 5.b.IR 1 - 7.b.IR 1 - 8.b.IR 1 - b.BrigEB 5 1 - b.JägR 1 1 - b.LIR 1 1 - b.LIR 2 1 - b.RadfBtl 1 - b.RIR 11 1 - b.RIR 16 1 - b.RIR 17 1 - b.RIR 19 1 - b.RIR 4 Infanterie/Jäger (in regimental order) ILR (11) 1.b.IR (6) 2.b.IR (1) 3.b.IR (8) 4.b.IR (7) 5.b.IR (1) 6.b.IR (2) 7.b.IR (1) 8.b.IR (1) 9.b.IR (2) 10.b.IR (3) 11.b.IR (4) 13.b.IR (1) 15.b.IR (1) 16.b.IR (3) 17.b.IR (2) 18.b.IR (3) 19.b.IR (2) 20.b.IR (1) 21.b.IR (1) 22.b.IR (2) 23.b.IR (2) 24.b.IR (3) 26.b.IR (1) 27.b.IR (1) 31.b.IR (1) 32.b.IR (1) b.LIR 1 (1) b.LIR 2 (1) b.RIR 1 (4) b.RIR 2 (4) b.RIR 3 (2) b.RIR 4 (1) b.RIR 5 (3) b.RIR 6 (2) b.RIR 7 (2) b.RIR 8 (2) b.RIR 10 (3) b.RIR 11 (1) b.RIR 12 (4) b.RIR 13 (3) b.RIR 15 (2) b.RIR 16 (1) b.RIR 17 (1) b.RIR 18 (5) b.RIR 19 (1) b.RIR 20 (2) b.RIR 21 (2) b.RIR 22 (2) b.RIR 23 (2) b.BrigEB 5 (1) 1.b.JB (2) 2.b.JB (3) b.RJB 1 (4) b.JägR 1 (1) JägR 3 (2) b.RadfBtl 3 (1) I should also add that Lt.d.R. Joseph Ritter v. Steiner of the b.3.IR received the Kommandeurkreuz as well, albeit posthumously. This was the only award of that class to an officer below division-level, and the only award of that class other than that to Oberstlt.i.G. Hans Ritter v. Hemmer to an officer below the rank of general/admiral.

1. USAF Combat Readiness Medal 2. USMC Selected Marine Corps Reserve Medal 3. Defense Distinguished Service Medal 4. Philippine Independence Medal (1946) The wearing on the upper right is probably due to the size of the badge. Also, many police departments are probably unaware of the military tradition of wearing the ribbons close to the heart. There are professional providers of police equipment who make individual ribbons for departments and who try to avoid duplication of military ribbons. See this site for example: https://publicsafetyspecialties.com/civilian_cloth_ribbons.htm The Sanford PD, however, appears to have just bought a bunch of ribbons for their officers without regard for their original meanings. Or maybe it is just Officer Singleton, since the only other picture I could find of a Sanford officer wearing ribbons was in the obituary for Officer Kate Walsh, and none of here ribbons were the same as any standard US military ribbons: https://www.facebook.com/SanfordPolice/photos/with-a-heavy-heart-we/831411966919621/

I do think the Alpenkorps is a worthy subject. I just think that to do it justice you need to address the Mecklenburger and Goslarer Jägers, among others. I know Chris's primary focus is Bavaria, though. Besides Bavarians like Ferdinand Schörner and Württembergers like Erwin Rommel, a number of Goslarer Jäger who served in the Alpenkorps, such as Hermann Balck, Ernst Haccius and Heinrich Kirchheim, went on to serve as generals in World War Two, so there could be additional interest from people whose interest is in WW2.

Focussing on the Alpenkorps alone, you would have to take into consideration that about 1/3 of the infantry was not Bavarian. Many of the MG and artillery units were also Prussian.

Christer, Is there a picture or any information on OLt.d.R. Richard Michelmann from 10. Komp., Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 255? He was either from the reserve of Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 135 or that of the 2. Garde-Regiment zu Fuß. Even a picture would help, if the uniform experts could tell if it was a guards or regular infantry uniform.

Schaub, Julius *20.08.1898 in München, †27.12.1967 ebenda Personal Adjutant (Persönlicher Adjutant) to Adolf Hitler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Schaub https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Schaub

Keppler, Georg *07.05.1894 in Mainz, †16.06.1966 in Hamburg SS-Obergruppenführer und General der Waffen-SS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Keppler https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Keppler There's a clearer picture on the English Wikipedia page, apparently taken from a WAF thread.

Göhrum, Kurt *27.03.1891 in Aalen, †11.04.1953 in Wladimir, UdSSR SS-Gruppenführer und Generalleutnant der Polizei https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Göhrum https://verwaltungshandbuch.bayerische-landesbibliothek-online.de/goehrum-kurt Also, a picture:

Eggeling, Joachim Albrecht Leo *30.11.1884 in Blankenburg am Harz, †15.04.1945 in Halle (Saale) Gauleiter von Halle-Merseburg, SS-Obergruppenführer https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joachim_Albrecht_Eggeling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joachim_Albrecht_Eggeling Digital photo of a microfilm image from his SS Personalakte, so not the best quality.

Unger, Lucius Valerius Moritz Hermann Fritz v. *31.07.1862 in Detmold, †10.03.1945 in Leitzkau bei Magdeburg 21.05.1906 Kommandeur, Dragoner-Regiment Nr. 22 03.03.1908 Chef des Generalstabes, XI. Armeekorps 23.09.1911 Kommandeur, 35. Kavallerie-Brigade 06.09.1914 Kommandeur, 38. Reserve-Infanterie-Brigade 26.12.1914 Kommandeur, 7. Kavallerie-Division 15.03.1916 Führer, 5. Landwehr-Division 07.04.1916 Führer, 33. Infanterie-Division 25.04.1916 Kommandeur, 34. Infanterie-Division 29.08.1916 Kommandeur, 103. Infanterie-Division 19.09.1916 Kommandeur, 5. Kavallerie-Division 29.01.1917 Kommandeur, 49. Reserve-Division 15.01.1919 Kommandierender General, stellv. XXI. Armeekorps xx.xx.191x Kommandierender General, stellv. XVI. Armeekorps 10.04.1906 Oberstleutnant 20.04.1909 Oberst 27.01.1913 Generalmajor 18.08.1916 Generalleutnant

Richthofen, Friedrich Oswald Ludwig Prätorius Frhr.v. *01.04.1863 in Rawitsch, †19.03.1951 in Fritzlar 1914 beim Stabe des Feldartillerie-Regiments Nr. 33 xx.xx.191x Kommandeur, 2. Fußartillerie-Brigade xx.xx.1917 Artillerie-Kommandeur 43 xx.xx.1917 Artillerie-Kommandeur 224 24.01.1919 Kommandeur, Feldartillerie-Regiment Nr. 33 01.10.1913 Oberstleutnant 22.03.1916 Oberst Generalmajor a.D.

Mentz, Friedrich Franz Karl v. *10.07.1853 in Schwerin, †18.01.1937 17.06.1893 Kommandeur, Unteroffiziervorschule Weilburg 18.06.1895 Kommandeur, III./Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 72 22.05.1900 beim Stabe des Infanterie-Regiments Nr. 72 25.07.1902 dem Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 176 aggregiert 12.09.1902 Kommandeur, Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 176 25.10.1906 Kommandeur, 28. Infanterie-Brigade 03.03.1910 Kommandant von Magdeburg 22.03.1912 z.D. gestellt xx.xx.1914 Kommandeur, stellv. 15. Infanterie-Brigade xx.xx.1915 Kommandeur, stellv. 13. Infanterie-Brigade 25.07.1902 Oberst 25.10.1906 Generalmajor 03.03.1910 Charakter als Generalleutnant 22.03.1912 Generalleutnant z.D. Also, a picture from my files from somewhere (probably from Glenn or Daniel).

Hundrich, Wilhelm *12.08.1864 in Burg bei Magdeburg, †17.08.1928 in Goslar 1914 Kommandeur, II./Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 26 27.09.1914-21.11.1914 Führer, Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 26 01.12.1914 Führer bzw. Kommandeur, Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 27 24.08.1918-xx.10.1918 Führer, 68. Infanterie-Brigade 22.03.1910 Major 15.02.1915 Oberstleutnant 22.03.1918 Oberst Ritter des Ordens "Pour le Mérite" (23.04.1918)

I can't read the name of the commander or what artillery group he commanded. Trarottoki or Traratloki or something like that? Although it was an award recommendation to German soldiers, I wonder if the signatory might be Austro-Hungarian or even Bulgarian?

Grothe, Hans Willi Otto v. *13.12.1869 in Mainz, †08.12.1943 in Breslau 16.07.1912 Adjutant, XVII. Armeekorps xx.05.1915 Kommandeur, III./Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 267 10.08.1916 Führer, Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 272 10.10.1916 Kommandeur, Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 272 01.10.1919 beim Stabe des Reichswehr-Infanterie-Regiments 6 xx.xx.1920 beim Stabe des Infanterie-Regiments 3 03.08.1921 verabschiedet 19.07.1913 Major 15.07.1918 Oberstleutnant xx.xx.1920 Oberst 27.08.1939 Charakter als Generalmajor a.D. Ritter des Ordens "Pour le Mérite" (02.11.1918)

Fritsch, Eduard Wilhelm Maximilian Valentin *26.02.1851 in Karlsruhe, †20.04.1944 in Oberkirch 15.12.1900 Kommandeur, Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 135 24.04.1904 z.D. gestellt und zum Kommandant, Truppenübungsplatz Posen, ernannt 21.04.1908 von seiner Dienststellung enthoben xx.xx.1914 Kommandeur, 13. Ersatz-Brigade 16.01.1915 Kommandeur, 14. Landwehr-Infanterie-Brigade 16.04.1917 Kommandeur, 43. Ersatz-Infanterie-Brigade 15.12.1900 Oberst 17.05.1904 Charakter als Generalmajor z.D. 27.01.1915 Patent seines Dienstgrades 30.08.1919 Charakter als Generalleutnant z.D. mit einem Dienstalter vom 03.05.1919

Delius, Eduard Karl Johannes Hermann *24.07.1862, †25.11.1919 1914 Oberstleutnant beim Stabe des Infanterie-Regiments Nr. 13 02.08.1914 Kommandeur, Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 13 24.08.1915 Kommandeur, Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 84 11.09.1916-12.10.1916 Führer, 214. Infanterie-Brigade 18.12.1916-23.09.1918 Kommandeur, 61. Reserve-Infanterie-Brigade 03.10.1918-10.01.1919 Kommandeur, 16. Landwehr-Division 15.01.1919-15.11.1919 Kommandeur, 27. Infanterie-Brigade 19.08.1914 Oberst 18.12.1917 Generalmajor

Dame, Friedrich Theodor Cai (oder Kai) *09.01.1851 in Wesselburen, †04.02.1937 02.08.1907 Kommandeur, Füsilier-Regiment Nr. 39 19.08.1909 Kommandeur, 26. Infanterie-Brigade 22.04.1912 z.D. gestellt 02.08.1914 Kommandeur, stellv. 55. Infanterie-Brigade 03.11.1914 Kommandeur, 55. Ersatz-Brigade 01.12.1914 Kommandeur, Garde-Ersatz-Brigade 01.07.1916 Kommandeur, stellv. 7. Infanterie-Brigade 05.10.1916-20.07.1918 Kommandeur, 403. Infanterie-Brigade 18.05.1905 Oberst 19.08.1909 Generalmajor 22.04.1912 char. Generalleutnant z.D.

Brederlow, Bonaventura Hans Werner Tido v. *27.11.1873 in Celle, †20.11.1934 1914 Kompaniechef im Garde-Füsilier-Regiment 02.08.1914 Adjutant, 1. Garde-Reserve-Division xx.10.1915 zeitweilig Führer, III./1. Garde-Reserve-Regiment xx.09.1916 Führer, III./1. Garde-Reserve-Regiment xx.10.1916 Kommandeur, III./1. Garde-Reserve-Regiment xx.11.1917-24.11.1917 Führer, "Regiment v. Brederlow" (III./1.GRR, II./IR 98, III./13.bay.IR) 21.03.1918 Führer, 1. Garde-Reserve-Regiment 26.03.1918 Kommandeur, 1. Garde-Reserve-Regiment xx.xx.1919 Kommandeur, II./Reichswehr-Infanterie-Regiment 5 xx.01.1920 Bataillons-Kommandeur, Reichswehr-Infanterie-Regiment 115 bzw. Infanterie-Regiment 5 xx.07.1923 kommandiert bei der Heeresfriedenskommission xx.xx.1924 Stab 2. Infanterie-Regiment 27.01.1908 Hauptmann 27.01.1915 Major 01.10.1920 Oberstleutnant 01.11.1923 Oberst xx.01.1926 mit Char. als Generalmajor verabschiedet Ritter des Ordens "Pour le Mérite" (09.10.18)

It is actually the ribbon of the Cross and Medal of Military Virtue. This ribbon was used as a war decoration for both the Order of the Star of Romania and the Order of the Crown.

That makes sense. I just quickly checked the 1911 Beurlaubtenstand RL, but didn't check further. Still surprising he was not in the Offizier-Vereinigung, but he may have been living in France or the Rhineland at the time and was prevented by French authorities.

He is listed as Hptm.a.D. Otto Heinrich Haehner in the 1930 Berlin Adreßbuch. In DeZeng and Stankey's list of Luftwaffe officers, they have him as "Hähner, Otto-Heinrich". 27.1.08 Lt.d.R. 21.2.15 OLt.d.R., z.Zt. im Ers./FußAR 10 26.6.17 Hptm.d.R. mit Pat. v. 15.6.17 He is listed as a Bankbeamter in Straßburg in the 1911 directory of reserve and Landwehr officers. He is not in the 1926 Mitglieder-Verzeichnis of the FußAR 10 Offizier-Vereinigung.