Ed_Haynes

As I dig about and get caught up on cataloging, old items (near-forgotten) float to the surface and bring questions with them. As I read Rick's interesting thread on clasp entitlements for the 1870/71 medal, I generate a theory of "17th Infantry Division". How wrong am I?

I added my contribution over in the other thread of the same name. One well known to Andreas too.

Thanks, "WC". When there is a dedicated bidder (or two) with deep pockets, prices can go high. I have seen it happen. Though I'd agree that, for this particular full cavilier set, $50 does not seem high. It is still a lot of money. Yet the nice thing about Soviet awards is that they are more than "things" or types, they come with a story attached, sometimes a rich and powerful story (like this one).

Yes, the new BB&M is a good starting point, but bear in mind that there are many more variations than shown there, especially for Indian awards. There are many post-"Mutiny" replacements for pre-1857 medals, for example, that some dismiss as fakes and the naming on the Afghan Medal (2nd Afghhan War) is almnost insanely diverse (the major pre-1914 recourse to non-standard naming). If your interest is in medals to natives of the UK, BB&M is a pretty reliable guide, though.

Yes. Just wish there'd been some date on the tiny newspaper clip. But, with these, any link we can get is a great deal.

Earlier? Sure.

Ahhh . . . "they fade in a different way". Various folks may take different comfort from that.

Many thanks. When it is all the documentation you have on his awards you are, still, very happy! His (only?) medal:

As I muddle through, getting things catalogued, I sometimes (too often) need help. From a nice cased medal (thanks, Charles!!) I need a translation:

Wow! There sure seems to be a lot of "variability" in what is going on? Unless there are things happening that mere mortals do not understand.

Hacker, not hackee.

Thanks, Sushilji.

No, Sushil, Jath was a State, a non-salute State in relations with Bombay and, later, in that very miscellaneous Deccan States Agency. Only on 23 June 1935 was the title "Raja" recognised by the British. Under the "rules", Jath should not have had medals. But I suspect they did, though none have been reported. As you know so well, many non-State zamindari landlords concocted medals, so why not Jath.

Congratulations to those who are active here that this thread seems to remain the most active in this sub-forum. This may say a lot.

True, perhaps. But so many in the ("former") CCCP proclaim the same tale. Many games, perhaps, but when it come to (or near) market . . . Witten as a former "owner" of an Americal Revolution graveyard that was plundered by the metal detector mob simply for the buttons . . .

The US, thinking they are beyond the rules, does tend to use this generic ribbon as a substitute for all UN services. However, I still think this (hypothetical) person was in (or around) UNOGIL. Again, the young naive US Naval LT who tried to teach me "Naval History" (and who had took no joy from it) in ca. 1968 wore this ribbon.

Sorry -- should never work from remnant 'memory' -- UNOGIL. http://www.un.org/Depts/DPKO/Missions/unogil.htm

Is it just me, or should I get "creeped-out" and think "grave robber" when I heard the phrase "ground-dug" so glibly and innocently intoned? Whatever gets you through the night, surrounded by ghosts. One hopes.

Thinking UNTSO naval extraction sorts. Had a (reluctant) university (NROTC) 'professor' who was there and wore the ribbon and who got never-ending questions (and challenges) from me. And your comments on US medals are 'dead-on', but there are so many 'being there' awards.

No, sorry. Google?? Have you tried the OMSA ribbon bank? (You'll need to be a member, of course. Not sure what you seek, though. As above: OMSA. Sure, why not? Posted into the right place. OH MY GOD! Why do this decescration???? If it broke it is broken.

Lebanon? Knew a US naval person wearing that ribbon.

Plausible? Yes. Maybe. Can such groups be mounted up, on order, within a few hours? Yes. Sooo . . . ????

Most British Empire awards, especially civil awards (most military awards lost that mount if/when mounted), came with a brooch (the upper pin mounting); only awards to women came on a bow mount.

Never heard it called that before. "Bow" maybe?

British Battles and Medals is always a good place to start.