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Thanks, Kim. While for Folks Like Me, McDaniel and Schmitt remains the source of choice, I do realize that in many ways it has been aging. While I rarely consider ANY on-line source to be up to muster when compared to something published, Mondovor is a good and valued source, from people who do their homework. Thanks again!

I have been struggling with the various aimag badges . . . grrrrr.

No, they have to be stopped. Dead.

See also: http://www.regiments.org/regiments/uk/inf/095RB.htm (A wondrous site, by the way!)

Agreed, Jan. We have to be careful not to embrace "mistakes" as "varieties". Personally, given how little we know on any documentary basis, I'd rather keep the door (tentatively) open rather than ignore unique oddities like this. If I had to wager what it was, . . . .

Please do post that information, Kim. I'm never certain, though, where the Avers series comes up with its easy and overly confident statements. What are their sources? Does Mondovor deal with this award? I can't recall (and navigating the Russian can grow frustrating for a Russian-illiterate like me).

And, in The Photo, he is clearly wearing that puppy (though in the infuriating soft focus zone!).

Thanks, Dave!

Help!! Somewhere along the line, my (OK, my incredibly dumb) questions about Kravchenko's badges got lost. I hope no one minds me bumping this thread in a repeated plaintive plea for help. http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=6207&st=5 Mystery Badge 1 - http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=6207&st=71 Mystery Badge 2 - http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=6207&st=72 Mystery Badge 3 - http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=6207&st=73 Mystery Badge 4 - http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=6207&st=74 Mystery Badge 5 - http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=6207&st=75 Mystery Badge 6 - http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=6207&st=77 Mystery Badge 7 - http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=6207&st=78 Thanks in advance . . . .

See also: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5914&st=10 http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5914&st=11

While, in Mongolian awards as for the sibling Soviet awards, non-military awards seem to be consciously underappreciated (with the possible exception of the exotic herders' awards). We may need to ask which contributed more to the "progress" of the MPR: years of service in the army or hard work in developing the economy? In any event, I thought I'd start a thread on this one, prompted by the new acquisition below. Not only the new "low" but also, apparently, another example of phaleristic recycling (look at 4 o'clock on the reverse). As I tentatively guess at a typology of these: X 01 - Type 1.1 (numbered, screwback); Low = 81/High = 4254 X 01? - Type 1.2 (numbered, pinback); Low = 541/High = ??? X 02? - Type 2 (unnumbered) Much to learn, as always!

Reverse. Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These have been touched on from time to time, but never addressed correctly. And I know there are some really impressive collections of them out there. Frankly, they confuse me tremendously! All I have is the nasty newest one. I think of them as: E 01 - Type 1 (numbered); Low = 596/High = 945; 1940s? E 02 - Type 2; 1950s? E 03 - Type 3; 1960s? NIB - Type 4 (heavy construction, relief reverse) E 04 - Type 5; 1970s? E 05 - Type 6; 1980s? E 06 - Type 7.1 (numbered); 1990s? E 06 (var) - Type 7.2 (unnumbered); Low = B-5/High = B-1266; 1990s? This is my 7.2 (by this categorization):

Ok, just to summarize what we think we know on terminology and numbers: Type 1 (broad numbers); Low = 159/High = 9116 Type 2 (narrow numbers); Low = 10327/High = 20008 Type 3 (for foreigners, on pentagonal suspension); Low = ??/High = ?? Corrections, please.

So . . . are we (the apparently few survivors on this forum?) happy with this structure (until we know more?): Type 1.1 (screwback, numbered); Low = ??/High = 37 Type 1.2 (screwback, unnumbered) Type 2.1 (pinback, numbered); Low = 4/High = 574 Type 2.2 (pinback, numbered, made of ?recycled? materials); Low = 77/High = 89 ???

Shall we try another nomenclature version? The versions and numbering here get almost as confusing as the order itself! Type 1 (Screwback; МОНДВОР mintmark; long oval design with two red banners, ~300 awarded); Low = 701/High = 792; 1936-39 Type 2.1 (Screwback; upward-curved МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; Uighur; SN at 6 o'clock near bottom); Low = 57/High = 2831; 1940-41 Type 2.2 (Screwback; downward-curved МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; Uighur; SN directly below screwpost); Low = 1151/High = 2878; 1941-?? Type 2.3 (Screwback; no mintmark; Uighur; SN at 7 o?clock); Low = 1562/High = ????; 1937 Type 2.4 (Screwback; hand-engraved МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; Uighur; SN at 6 o'clock near bottom); Low = 1753/High = 1776 Type 3.1 (Screwback; Cyrillic; slightly concave reverse; SN at 7 o'clock); Low = 2/High = 6952; 19??-?? Type 3.2 (Screwback; Cyrillic; flat reverse; SN directly below screwpost); Low = 5094/High = 9941; 19??-?? Type 3.3 (Screwback; Cyrillic; flat reverse; SN at 6 o'clock); Low = 10007/High = 15000; 19??-70 Type 4.1 (Pinback, silver); Low = 15015/High = 30409; 1970-2003 Type 4.2 (pinback, bronze); Low = 31835/High = 39785; 2003? Type 4.3 (pinback, bronze, no serial number) Corrections, please!

To offer a corrected nomenclature: Type 1.1 (screwback, number prefaced by ?No?); Low = 316/High = 1763; 1941-?? Type 1.2 (screwback); Low = 1795/High = 9263; 1951-60 Type 2.1 (pinback, silver, rotating-tool-engraved); Low = 10020/High = 16999; 1982-?? Type 2.2 (pinback, silvered bronze, enameled ribbon); Low = 18071/High = 23354; 1985-?? Type 2.3 (pinback, silvered bronze, enameled ribbon, unnumbered) Sorry for helping to keep an myth alive. May that "thump" we hear be a stake going well through its heart?

Outstanding Worker of Public Service M 15 (M 14?)

Outstanding Worker of the Ministry of Industry K 02 Unnumbered.

Outstanding Tade Union Activist X 24

Mongolian Revolutionary Youth League (MYRL) Pin V 10 Some sort of international friendship badge (the multi-colored motif on the star?)??

Outstanding Agitator B 35

They charge THAT much?! Ka-CHING - early retirement here I come . . .

Oops, me too, unless you count the sanctions . . . . End of semester, brain shut down . . . . Moreover, let me drag out and post the revenant French medals for the various GWs (Gulf Wars, that is).

Well done, Christophe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I - 1979-89 II - 1990-91 III - 1994---- You win this quiz. Many others flunk.