Ed_Haynes

Thanks to all of you for helping me sort these out. I find this one very confusing. But much less confusing now!

It is good to see this lovely and historic group "bumped", Rick.

I try not to use names of non-forum members. Just me. (Although anyone who knows the ohaleristic trade in UB knows him.) Why not post these items to the forum if you want to discuss them? You may have to do resizing and editing but, stilll, . . . ??? Imperial Chinese awards turn up from time to time in Ulanbaatar, often things that have from up from the Southern Neighbor. And, with so many things coming out of China these days, some are legitimate and some are not. And, as you know, you need to be very careful.

Oh, then these are others, from another person. I know of whom you speak. He had intended to come to this years OMSA but, alas, did/could not.

The Mongolian ones, at least, seem to have gone mainly to long distance truck drivers. But maybe Hungary has few long distances?

This one? Try http://faculty.winthrop.edu/haynese/rofl.gif

I think you'll see these have already been posted and discussed. Besides being very damaged the authenticity has been challenged by some and affirmed by others, some of whom know their stuff and some of whom don't. The amount of bluster surrounding Chinese awards is amazing. I think I have posted them here and on teh OSMA site, back in the day when I spent time there. The custodian has been kept up to date with the massive confusion surrounding these awards, which I photographed in his flat. Due to damage, if nothing else, I fear for their market value, which may be his ultimate plan.

So, as I recall, did another chap named Moses.

Nice post. Thanks, Brian. This is all addressed in rather more detail in a book that, if I am lucky, I shall hold in my hands before I die. A long and nasty tale . . . . Never seen a mounted group with the plastic-cloth ribbon. Always poaper. Another pretty idea that was unworkable.

"Traitor"? Not really. A loyalist?

Oh . . . Thanks for posting this set, Anatoly!

Hi Sebastijan. Welcome to the forum. As these are (mostly) unnamed and fairly common medals, they are not widely faked, though they have been made and issued from different places, at different times. I don't see anything to worry about with these. Though, if they are not named, they hold almost no research value.

Aleksandr Pavlovich Dikhtyar's OPW2 jubilee award. See http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=20684 for the full group and story.

The use of a Russian-inscribed screwback with "St. Petersburg" would seem to suggest either pre-Revolutionary recycling or contemporary "augmentation"?

All ten, no partial credit. 100% or nothing. Which means partial answers will just help the others. All are, I think, some place on the forum and all belong under our title. Yes, I am vicious. My students think so too.

OK! I have had this one ready for a while, hoping I'd win some day!! Happiness is a Warm Gun (with apologies to John Lennon) Sorry, I have been writing exams for my students: A ten-part question. Identify the following "warm guns" as to country and medal.

Who am I? Maria Konnenkova What did I do? Gathered information on US atomic bomb development programs. Who was the famous person now associated with me? Albert Einstein (who she "dated") http://www.sptimesrussia.com/index.php?act...mp;story_id=865

Thank you, Paul!

And, finally, a hand-painted porcelain pocket-sized icon.

The reverse. This has been translated to me as: "Image. Be true, with your word, life, love, spirit, faith, and purity." The date is inscribed as "Year 1896 Day of May 14th". The large inscribed "N" stands for Nicholas II.

Close-up (4-3/4" in height, 2-1/2" in width and 1/8" in thickness).

His cross with chain, silver-dipped bronze (but most of the silvering is now gone).

The backside.

His medals (remounted from what he is shown wearing in the photo): 1- Medal for Zeal ? Nicholas II, in silver, 1894-19 2- Medal for Efforts in the First General Census of the Population

For those who don't know St. Sergius . . . see: http://orthodoxwiki.org/Holy_Trinity-St._Sergius_Lavra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troitse-Sergiyeva_Lavra http://www.stsl.ru/languages/en/index.php http://www.lavra.ru/ http://www.musobl.divo.ru/archit_e.html http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/657