Alan

Hi John, Let me know your email and I will send you through some pics of what I have. Alan

I have to agree with you Vince a good piece… the question is though whether it is a 2nd Class messed with to be a 1st Class with a spurious D gilt mark or a nice original 1st Class with a D gilt mark that is legit, that is the question. I think possibly the former as I have never seen a D mark that wasn‘t raised and framed. Has anyone seen this type of imprint D gilt marking on an OZL before?

Hi Guys, When I saw lot 211 in J Kube's auction 146 catalogue, an OZL 1st class with swords, I sent an email to Mr Kube asking whether there was a "D" stamp on the cylinder along with a sample picture taken from the 1st Class OZL in my collection. The reply back was "Dear Sir: lot 211 has a stamp „D“ on the cylinder" With this I thought great and went ahead and submitted my bids and was very pleased when I was successful. Today I received the lots that I had had won and I have a few questions (The Kube OZL is in the middle of the 3 pictured for comparison). When I compared the Doublé marks I was concerned to see that the one from Auction 146 was not similar to all the other marks I had seen previously mainly on Oakleaves. Has any one seen a mark like this? Does the colour of the guiding look correct? Even with possible tarnishing I think it looks off. Before reaching out to Mr Kube I would like to just get more of an understanding as to what this is. Is it a freshly Gilted 2nd class with mark added to try to legitimize a Frankenstein Or a real Silver Gilt 1st class that has a D mark from a different manufacturer All opinions welcome Guys

I was wandering can someone explain how the system of classifying awards from Modell to Form (Ausgabe) works please? What are the requirements for each For example: Model denotes = Die Change, addition of swords Form denotes = Materials used from Gold, Silver Gilt, Silver Thanks Alan

So true Sascha, it is certainly an easy way to upgrade. for profit. In the end I did purchased this one as I liked the finish and the price wasn't excessive.

Thank you, this is very helpful. Not sure why I wrote September…old age I guess.

Nice one, thank you

Hello Guys, I have these 2 items that came together and I would like to find out all I can. The photo is large format and I am assuming is of Wilhelm Spathelfer. The document is a dedication from his friend Emil Gärtner which I have translated as: Jesus said: I am the resurrection and the life John 11:25 To Commemorate Wilhelm Spathelfer, Teacher. Dedicated by (v. f. ??) friend Emil Gärtner He died a hero's death for the fatherland at Aurhy on the 9th September 1915 in the war year 1914/15. No one has greater love than this, he lays down his life for his friends John 15:13 Can anyone tell me what the v. f. in "gewidmet v.f. Freund Emil Gärtner" means please? Also I cannot find a reference to Aurhy or when translated Authy. The battle at Soissons, Aisne River 8th - 14th Jan. 1915 fits the date mentioned. Where might I find any service history for these 2 men? Many thanks

Wow Dave, thank you for all your efforts, totally unexpected result so far. Looking forward to see what comes out next.

Well this is good news, thankyou Laurentius. Thankyou Vince and Daniel.

My thought is that this combination doesn‘t have anything unusual or rare about it. Hopefully I‘m wrong about that, maybe there is a pic with it in wear somewhere.

I thought I would share this Ordensspange. When I bought it, the second space was empty and I have since added a nice Wagner HOH Knight‘s Cross. Not researchable I fear, but a great colourful bar none the less.

Thanks Trooper_D for the link. Adjutant to the Commander of the Cadet Corps Governor of the Royal Pages in the Prussian Army This is fantastic Sascha, Thank you. It's great to see Ernst Kreuz in wear and his medalbar.

Hello gents, What can you tell me about the military record of this fellow? I understand he was a German Baron and served as an adjutant for the 66 infantry brigade which seems to be part of the Prussian 4th or 5th Guards. He inherited an estate from his grandfather in the United Kingdom around 1910 which he had to leave in 1914 at the outbreak of the war. After the war the British Government sold the estate under the terms of the Trading with the Enemy Amendment Act of 1914. Does anyone have a picture of him during the war? Can someone translate the body of his award document for the Ernst Kreuz at all? His ordenspange can be found here Many thanks

Hi Guys, I would like to find out a little more about this award. I know these came marked with designer O. Pech and sometimes with maker L. Chr. Lauer, Nürnberg Is there away to tell the award types, ie were they always made from silver and marked silber 990, and the earlier types from the later? Why some have the makers name and some do not. I think Lauer was the sole maker but not positive. Many thanks