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Very interesting group. He must have been very old in the picture. It's difficult to comment without a name, maybe you could give a hint for the regiment? (by PM?)

Yeah, that's the point. Look here: Galland wears his Sudeten medal before his LS decoration - contra regulations.

Found this on ebay. Close-up:

I think we don't yet have a thread dedicated exclusively to photos with mistakes in ribbon/medal bar wear - if there is one, please correct me. I'm looking especially for idiosyncratic bars in wrong precedence, very strange fashion statements, outfitters' mistakes. Rick has some in the database, but there are probably more out there. Here's my first contribution:

Very interesting! A Red Cross decoration M37-39, not Volkspflege. Should be a doctor. Is that a dark blue backing? Chris

Congratulations to Rick and Daniel! And thanks to Dave for your upload!

Here is the original thread about the book: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=19385

And here's another piece of Generalleutnant v. Besser's story, thanks to Dave's upload of Die Ritter des Eisernen Kreuzes in alphabetischer Reihenfolge Heft 2, Feb 1915 ( ). How v. Besser won the EK1 1914 is one of the longest citations in the entire book:

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Heinrich Kopp was a CIVIL engineer, not a member of the navy. He is listed in the DOA 1908/09 as living in Berlin, born in Berlin 16.8. (but no year listed!), with PrKO4, Prussian lifesaving medal and - Italian livesaving medal. Regards Chris

That is D.A. II. Kl. -> (Bavarian) long service award 2nd class (for 12 years).

Thanks for the reply. Lukasz Gaszewski lists some Finnish civilian awards, chamber of commerce and the like, on green ribbons: http://www.medals.lava.pl/fi/fi1.htm

The back. To me, the construction does not look like other Finnish ribbon bars. Looks rather German.

Just got this ribbon bar with what look like Finnish awards. Rick suggested medal of liberty 1st and 2nd class? And what could be #3? A Finnish civilian award? Or a regimental commemorative? Or even a Vasa order?

Yes, but that was not his final rank: Rudolf Großmann made Kapitän zur See (V) # 1.4.1940. The Navy RL 1940 lists him as the ONLY administrative Kapitän zS. He held his job as Administrative Officer on the staff of North Sea Station until 1.07.1942 when he went zV. But he continued as director of the main library in Marineoberkommando Nord until 31.1.1945, when he went aD. Died 10.2.1960.

That is very well possible, because the building in the background is definitely the "Braunes Haus" in Munich, which became party headquarters in 1930.

And did you notice the precedence he mounted his non-Bavarian awards? With the exception of the EK, of course, they are in ALPHABETICAL order of the states!!

So that's why he put the Rupprecht medal first, of all things! Very impressive bar!

And this one, which is marked as a cavalry ribbon:

There are at least two more which can be found on this site.

I hope Daniel doesn't mind if I re-post this nice table he made for WAF a couple of years ago:

Congratulations on this bar! Paul Klaproth was director of the Hannoversche Bank, which was taken over by the Deutsche Bank in 1920. Klaproth continued then as director of the Hannover branch of the Deutsche Bank. The building of the Hannoversche Bank still exists and is still the seat of the Deutsche Bank Hannover:

From the Volksbund database - this is probably his son: Hauptmann Friedrich Ronneberger, born 14.4.1917 in Wilhelmshaven, KIA 6.8.1942 in Kulschewo-Trostino/Russia.

Some more information on Ronneberger from a short article that I found: He was born in Kamenz/Saxony on 21.9.1886. He came to Wilhelmshaven in October 1915 after his theological studies. In November 1918, he belonged to the staff of the ships in Scapa Flow. After WW1, he was very active in giving lectures and collecting money for the memorial at Laboe. He had two children, a daughter and a son who was KIA in WW2. Died on 16.6.1968 in Wilhelmshaven and is buried there.

There is an Oberst Hans PAMPE, seniority 1.2.1940 #5 listed in the 1945 RL. No other information given.