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I saw that one too. I wanted to bid, but 260€ were too much for my budget... Very nice piece! Congratulations!!!!

Interesting! And the 1563? Here: http://study.abingdon.org.uk/quater/Abingdon_School/Quatercentenary_Music_files/shapeimage_1.jpg

At the moment the book will be firstly only available in Germany. Soon it will be also available (as paperback or e-book) in the US, UK, Canada and Australia (most likely via Amazon or other major online vendors) Hallo Immanuel! Du soltest schreiben, wann es auch in anderen Ländern verfügbar ist.

Well, I don´t know... I´d say, the number is the year. Turning in circles the only solution in the internet was the swedish one. That would fit to 1563 too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Seven_Years'_War Near Karlsruhe in germany is a town called Marxzell with a similar coat-of-arm, but no hint to 1563 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxzell The same is Giessen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giessen What happened in 1563? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1563

Hello Jonas! As I said, it´s just a guess. This one was the only link to the patch. We should find out, what the number stands for. Is it a year? Or a unit? The only german unit would be 15th company of Inf.Rgt. 63 That regiment had 3 MG-companies, so they counted as 13., 14. and 15th company. But anyway, that patch really doesn´t look german to me We

Hello! I don´t think, it´s german. I assume it´s swedish, but it´s just a guess. The Kalmar Regiment fought 1563 in the "Nothern Seven Years War" (1563-1570). The regiment did exist also from 1994-1997 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalmar_Regiment The lion could be the coat-of-arm of Östergötland (Sweden) https://www.asisbiz.com/Sweden/Statue-Karl-XIV-Johan.html Heraldry From 1560 Östergötland was represented with two separate arms until 1884 when the current one was granted. The arms is represented with a dukal coronet. Blazon: ‘Gules a Griffin with Dragon Wings, Tail and Tongue rampant Or armed, beaked, langued and membered Azure between four Roses Argent.’

Hello! Brilliant! Thanks a lot for the link! I wondered where the site had gone and was quite angry about the absence!

Yes, 100%! I`ve never seen holes like that in austrian EW. Originally they had none, Wehrmacht had four (photo 1), Bundeswehr three (+ one in the stalk, photo 2)

Hello! I think, it´s an original austrian EW. The single hole might have been made later. Here is an example of it

Phantastic, Chris! Phanatstic! Photo 7 shows the bavarian coat-of-arm from 1835-1923. (attachement #1) So they used the coat-of-arm of the war-time! For the coat-of-arm from 1923-1950 see attachement #2 The "Fish" is the coat-of-arm of Kaiserslautern and the "Monk" is the "Stadtwappen" (coat-of-arm of the city) of München (Munich). The oldest name of München is Munich (that cames from Mönch = engl. monk). Please be not confused with the attached picture #3. Coat-of-arm of Kaiserslautern attachement #4

Hi Jef! I don´t know, if a Lt. Strohbusch was in that unit. Lieutenant in 1917 means, he was a reserve-officer or became Lt. in the war, so he´s not listed in the Ehren-Rangliste. Because of the RFAR12 you are right. Unfortunately I didn´t find any maps after the battle of Wytshaete

Hello Jef! First of all I must say, it´s sad to hear about your knee. I hope you fell better soon! You own the book about the 251 divisions. I checked, that there was no other unit with a 12, so it will be our 12th firldartillerie unit. I have another info. The 1st bataillon of that regiment was under command of the bavarian 18th Infantry Regiment from may 5 until june, 7 1917. But I don´t think, that helps, because the entire division left that place june, 8 (the 12th field-artillery later)

I think, the question is answered. The infos in the site http://www.omaha-beach.org/Deutsche-Version/Landau/12.bayFeldArtRegt.html came originally from the regimental history. We know, the division fought at june 7, and th eregiment was at the shooting range from june 11. So I assume, they could be in Vichte june 8, 9 maybe 10. Jef, if the lady wrote down only numbers, it also could be ammo-collumns or any other units. Here is the cheapest offer of that book: http://www.booklooker.de/app/detail.php?id=A01PTnLv01ZZj&pid=76312&t=ma8mk9rt5wc9t27f

You forgot, you call yourself "Irish Gunner"... That´s what I call "International friendship"... Back to our problem. Unfortunately Patrick doesn´t have the regimental history. http://military-books.lima-city.de/test/index.html

Well, Rick, I had a nice bottle of a 2012 french "Mas Bécha Serge - Barrique" (15,5%, A.O.C. Côtes du Roussillon) I think, they stopped at the railroad station in Vichte, while the train with the guns went ahead to Briey. To take a regiment´s guns from one place to another, took time! But that´s just a guess. We´ll get correct informations from the regimental history.

"Maybe" I´ve got it, mates... Imagine, the german writer didn´t spell the french words right... In handwriting, an u could look like an n The history of the divisions writes about Conflans, other records about Briey. Please have a look at this modern map West of those towns is a village, called "Gondrecourt-Aix" Probably in 1917 only Gondrecourt. (= Goudrecourt?) and 2km south of that is "Mouaville" (= La Mouraille?). That would not be so interesting, if there was NOT a shooting range ("Champ de tir") between Gondreville and Briey!!!! Maybe this one did almost exist in 1917? That area was occupied by the germans!

We have sunday afternoon. Stormy, rainy and cold. A good time to research something or getting drunk...

Yes, that´s a problem. I only can find a Gondrecourt, but that was not german-occupied... The german fieldartillery shooting-grounds were: Sebourg, Maubertt-Fontaine, Ciney, Thimougries, Grodno, Orany and Bitsch

The "Bayernbuch" says, that most of the regiments of the bav.3.Inf.Div. were destroyed on the 7th. Since june 8, the rest of the division was transfered to the Briey-sector near Metz. The distance is about 300km... Before the battle of Wytshaete, the division was near Roubaix, later near Comines-Wervicq. "Die Bayern im großen Krieg": "Auch die zusammengeschmolzene Infanterie der b.3.ID verließ am 8.Juni Abends, das 12.b.Feldart.Rgt. einige Tage später die Stellung, um in die gegend von Briey abzufahren." Shortly: the infantry left the area june, 8 at noon, the 12th artillery a few days later. Maybe the regiment stopped at the railway station of Vichte and stayed a few days. That could be the period from 8th until around the 11th of june, but NOT in end of june or july! Here you see, that the regiment was in Goudrecourt from june, 12 until july, 15 http://www.omaha-beach.org/Deutsche-Version/Landau/12.bayFeldArtRegt.html

Not a lot, mates... I don´t have the regimental history. The book about the 251 german divisions says: "On june 5, the 3rd bav. div. began to relieve the 40th div. in the Messines sector. The british attack took place on the 7th during thisb relief. The division lost the village and the summit of Messines. It suffered considerable loss and left 1531 prisoners in the hands of the enemy." Here the battles of the division in that time: june, 7: Battle of Wytschaete and Messines 16.7.-8.10.17: Trench battles in Lorraine Maybe they went back to Vichte after june, 7th. (Messines > Vichte ~ 40km)

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Rest in peace, my friend. That are very sad news. I didn´t know you personally, but your threads and your knowledge we´ll never forget. Ruhe in Frieden, mein Freund!

Hello newbee! Black shoulder straps with red pipings stand for: Reserve-Pionier-Kompanie Nr.81 (it belonged to the 79th Reserve-Division). In these colours it was worn on the 1915 tunic ("Bluse") Ooops, I doupled it up... Chip almost responsed to your question in the other thread...