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two more pieces of enamel from me. A miniature 1870 Maidens Cross and a full sized Teutonic Knights cross.

I have one ---

I am a Ek guy so these are the only fullsized examples I have to share. I do however have a few minis.

The cross is made by AWS. ( A. Werner & Sohne ) .

Frankenstein cross. Someone took a $500 1870 Ek2 and tried turning it into a $4k Ek1.

Nice, original cross. Congrats.

This is a reworked 1914 cross. It's easily identified by the unique crown as having been made by "MFH" --whoever that was. My guess is that it was "upgraded" to try and boost the price to an unsuspecting potential buyer.

no worries on this cross

Nice cross.

Thank you Rick, I appreciate that.

Complete junk

Early awarded style 1870 cores were all cast at the Berlin foundry until it's closing in 1873. There is no way to tell the difference between 2nd class crosses assembled by Wagner, Godet or LL.

Thanks for the reply. I just went through the "show us your minis" thread and came across a mini chain that had both the 15 year and 25 year crosses on it. So that is a maybe.

I have had this mini for nearly 20 years and the time has come to try and restore it but I have no idea what the medal in the #2 position should be. My guess would be another long service medal of some sort according to the color of the ribbon but would having two LS medals make any sense with this combination? I welcome any and all comments. Thank you, Greg

Fantastic 1870 Ek w/ oaks mini.

Bavarian MVO4X

I agree, I see WBs mainly on chains or as a stickpin. I have a simple 2 place knopflock with a Ek and a Gold WB.

My newest mini. Thank you to everyone that replied to my PMs about this piece.

Nice find ! I'm not a big WB guy but I do like the screwback versions.

As some of you know, my main focus is on Imperial Eks and I have been fortunate enough to find some rare and unusual examples but my favorite piece in my collection is my s98/05 sawtooth bayo. It was given to me on my 16th birthday by a dear family friend who's husband brought it home on his return from ww1. It's not rare or special in any way except for it's sentimental value to me.

Good explanation . Thanks Eric.

You're welcome. Glad I could contribute.

The textured finish to the reverse of the cross and on the mousetrap look odd to me. It's almost like they have been sand blasted but that might very well just be an effect of the lighting in the photo. As for the details of the cross itself, everything looks spot on. Also, I would trust Eric's opinion on these as I think he has handled mor KMST crosses that anyone I can think of.

Joel, Here are a couple different DOV screw nuts.