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  1. chuck

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    Hi Uwe, I refer to a book by the author M.DEMIR ERMIN who states the following on YOUTUBE promoting his book. exclusively about the medal in question "Harp Madalyasi". The "The official medal was a thin layer red lacquered painted one" the quote is at 2:18 seconds in the video. The Turkish War Medal by M. Demir ERMAN (wixsite.com) Regards, Chuck
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    Hi Uwe, That's great information i have learned something new. Regards, chuck
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    Uwe, I have read this in GMIC threads. As i do not collect Turkish awards i have not purchased any books, but here is a web site. German Colonial Uniforms - Medals awarded to German Colonial and Overseas Troops Regards, Chuck
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    Chris, Not an expert on Turkish medals, but from what i have read original award pieces were painted, and had no enamel. Ottoman Empire, Turkish War Medal (Gallipoli Star), 1915, wartime issu – BuyMilitaryMedals.com Regards, Chuck
  5. Do you know who the maker of the prinzen size cross was and in what period. i have seen the same piece for sale and would like to know more. chuck
  6. It's a moot point as the wound badge is no longer available. However, i did find a nice example of 3 clam shell backs on WW 11 General Assault Badges(orignal article link). Not a collector that period, but it is a good example. Their is a definite difference in the overall appearance of the 3 clam shells on the attached picture in my opinion as stated below. General Assault Badge Screwback Clamshell – BACUFFZ My Opinion of the three clamshells from left to right: The Schauerte-Hohenfeld seem to have a flat rim unlike the others two makers. The Deumer seem to have fairly tight ridges as compared to the other two makes. The Alois Rettenmaier seems to have fairly wide ridges on the clamshell as compared to the other two makers. P.S. Still have some reservation due to the lack of defined edges unlike many of the stamped badges have on the back of the wound badge. Regards, Chuck
  7. Eric, Do you have any examples of wound badges with clamshell back from either company? Regards, Chuck
  8. Hi Eric I referred to the wound badge as a Deumer because that is what the seller listed. I have seen WW II badges with various clamshell backings as you have listed. Considering what you have written, i would draw the conclusion that this is a period piece from the 30's, or 40's and not a current forgery. Thank you for comments, Chuck
  9. I've seen 1st Class Iron Cross made in the 30's by Deumer with the same type of clamshell backing. So i assume this would be the same period, and definitely not an award piece from 1918. As their was a period in the 30's (1933-1936) were you could apply for wound badges, and medals were all the rage luxury piece were probably being sold. So to clarify my question. I would ask the question is this piece an origina, or a fake. thanks, chuck
  10. I have never owned a Deumer wound badge and cannot find any good images for comparison. I have some concerns on the lack of details on the reverse of the badge. Any opinions on this Deumer Wound Badge i am considering on purchasing? Thanks in advance Chuck
  11. Really great and historic group. Who is the maker of the iron cross, Godet or one of the other official makers? I wonder what a general would give to another general?
  12. Fortunately, Their is a biography of Karl Thom that covers some award and promotion dates. Order of the Pour Le Merite ; November 1 1918 Royal Hohenzollern House Order, Member's Cross with Swords ; August 7 1918 Golden Military Merit Cross ; October 11 1917 Iron Cross 1st, for escape from captivity after a forced landing du to mechanical issues (sometime between OCT1916-APR1917) Iron Cross 2nd Class, after being wound in November 1914 Pilot's Badge, Army assigned fliegertruppe in June 1915 Wound Badge in Silver ; date ?? Unteroffizier, Promoted after being wounded in November 1914 Vizefeldwebel, Promoted July 24 1916 Leutnant, Promoted August 29 1918 Regards, Chuck
  13. According to research by Neal O'Conner. The number of the PLM and GMMC could not be very much if you consider how late in the war the Prussian chose to start awarding GMMC. The 1st award of the GMMC was not made until October 15 1916, and the 2nd on June 14 1917 with 53 awards being made in 1917. The flood gate opened in 1918 with 1,1715 crosses being award until the last award on November 8 1918. Considering that fact you would have had to be an NCO and promoted to officer in 1918. That would certainly lessen the opportunity. Neal O'Conner does list 5 aviation officers who won both the PLM and GMMC. Paul Baumer Julius Buckler Otto Jonnecke Fritz Rumey Karl Thom Regards, Chuck
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