My first Tamara

[bryansk1959]

Thank you very much! I like him  same.Best regards.Alexander.

[bryansk1959]

I ask to express your opinion about this award. I like it. Many thanks.

[bryansk1959]

Good evening. I ask you to express an opinion about this order. It seems I read somewhere on the Internet that they were released in the 60s.Many thanks.

[Bob]

Here is another addition to my collection

interesting because of what is etched on the reverse - hard to read but appears to say “f sedlatzek berlin leipzigerstr”

[bryansk1959]

obverse please, is there a company name on pin?

Edited March 9, 2019 by bryansk1959

[Bob]

http://gmic.co.uk/classifieds/item/403-tamara-ordersedlatzek/

No company name on the pin, perhaps a very small silver mark but difficult to be certain.

I do have another Sedlatzek Tamara in my collection (based on my big excel file used to document my collection) but not at home and can't remember the details and suspect I did not post a picture here.

Attached the pics of the current one.

[bryansk1959]

Thank you very much.Very nice item.

[bryansk1959]

Hello.Here is another Tamara order+miniature to my collection 

[Bob]

Wow, love the miniature!Wow, love the miniature!

[bryansk1959]

Thanks.I would like to know if the miniatures of the Order of Tamara were only suspended? And the miniature on the needle is a converted suspension? This is the same from my collection.

[Bob]

A cased Tamara or somebody's color printer got a bit creative?

ebay nr 202714664610

[922F]

Consular seals always guarantee authenticity, Bob!   And they are never forged!   The case itself seems in truly excellent condition considering is supposed age.  And such a modest price!!     ?   

Some documentation indicates that a German Consulate existed in Tiflis/Tbilisi at the appropriate time [see https://researchleap.com/role-support-germany-along-difficult-way-gaining-georgias-independence-1918/].  Rather unclear, however, what role it would play in this circumstance.   

[bryansk1959]

How are the German consulate in Tiflis and the Order of Tamara connected? I do not believe.

[922F]

Bryansk1959,  Did you not notice the sarcastic smirk icon???     The case does not seem similar to any known cases and the recess/nest for the star is very clumsy.  Someone either found some old or forged consular stamps and added them for 'legitimacy'.  In practice, what would a consular officer have to do with a military  related award?

Edited June 23, 2019 by 922F
spelck

[bryansk1959]

I noticed everything. Therefore, I wrote that I did not believe it. It is not the best copy I have ever seen.

[bryansk1959]

Hello to all.I ask to express your opinion about this award. I like the basis of the order, but what about the medallion? Replacement? Thanks.

[Bob]

I was in Georgia two weeks ago for business and vacation and ran into this picture at a local museum in Tbilisi - Friedrich Werner von der Schulenburgh, Consul of Germany in Georgia. Looks like he may be wearing a Tamara?

[bryansk1959]

Yes. This is the order of Queen Tamara. The first type. The book of K. Nikolayev contains the date of the first award-04/30/1917

[GEORGIA on my mind]

 

On 10/02/2020 at 22:05, Bob said:

I was in Georgia two weeks ago for business and vacation and ran into this picture at a local museum in Tbilisi - Friedrich Werner von der Schulenburgh, Consul of Germany in Georgia. Looks like he may be wearing a Tamara?

 

Photo of Friedrich Werner von der Schulenburgh from the Museum of Soviet Occupation of Georgia (Tbilisi). He is wearing Order of Queen Tamara. The photo was taken in Tbilisi in 1918. Below a mans photo in a suit- Mikhail Tsereteli, one of the leaders of the Committee of the Liberation of Georgia

[GEORGIA on my mind]

Hello,

I want to share with you another photo of Friedrich Werner von der Schulenburgh with Queen Tamara Order

[GEORGIA on my mind]

Hello friends, I want to share a photo of Order of Queen Tamara. This award belonged to a famous Georgian politician and public figure of the late 1800s- Niko Nikoladze.

Niko Nikoladze was the honorary chairman of the National Democratic Party of Georgia (1917-1921).

He took an active part in the socio-economic life of the newly created Georgian republic. His signature is on the Act of Independence of Georgia (1918).

More information about him you can find in this following Wikipedia link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niko_Nikoladze

He was awarded with this Queen Tamara Order in 1918 by the Committee of the Independence of Georgia

[bryansk1959]

Hi dear Nikoloz. A very pleasant subject and a cognitive bit of history.???

[GEORGIA on my mind]

Dear Alexander, thank you very much 

 

[Bob]

I recently received this Tamara plus document and (to my surprise) a bunch of additional documents about the Order of Queen Tamara in general incl scans of 2 additional award documents

the writing on these docs is not always easy to decypher but my award document coming with the Tamara appears awarded to (Sergeant?) Herrmann Stelter from Sturmbataillon 10, correct? Also, this document has written in pencil on it “wintershagen bei neustadt” - any idea of what the significance of that could be? upon googling, it refers to "wintershagen bei neustadt in holstein" (northern germany) - why?

any insight on the scans of other docs?

Edited January 12, 2021 by Bob

[922F]

Bob, You struck it rich!! Congratulations