Verdun16 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verdun16 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Not sure if this is the corect case for this issue. Unmarked and not form fitted for the award but bought together,Bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Ooooohhhhh. Nice-early and nice. What is the profession?Hey, you should do a follow up note on this one for the JOMSA!Ulsterman,Engineering is the profession.Verdun16,Thanks for posting all your early numbered badges. As I mentioned before, these are getting hard to come by and as you have noted, the prices are certainly going up.Regards,Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 #242 and #245 are really nice.Congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Gents,Here is a totally new shape for the Kiv?l? Dolgoz?. This cased award was given out by the MAYGAR HITEL BANK. It is a pin back badge with a plain back. Her is the top of the box.Regards,Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 The award in the open case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 A close up of the Kiv?l? Dolgoz? from the MHB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 wow oh wow!!I assume that is a 1980s type of pin? A bankers' badge- I LOVE it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Ulsterman,Yes it is.Regards,Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 A Kiv?l? M?sz?ki Dolgoz? with a twist. The top cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 The bottom of the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 The obverse of the award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 A close up of the award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 And now for the twist. Instaed of having a numer/letter number combination or a plain back this one has L A B O R 25 on the back. The English translation for labor is laboratory. Not really sure what this refers to. Perhaps laboratoy #25 was where the worker was employed who received this Kiv?l? M?sz?ki Dolgoz?.Regards,Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimbineus Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 (edited) Hi Gents, In this category of "KIV?L? DOLGOZ?" badges, these three tiny ones are my favourites. "KIV?L? M?H?SZ" means "Excellent Bee-keeper". There were three grades of this title, gold (1st class), silver (2nd class) and bronze (3rd class) grades. Are not they lovely? (And what an idea, "Excellent Bee-keeper"!? ) Regards,cimbineus Edited November 18, 2008 by cimbineus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 cimbineus,Another new badge that I have not seen before and I have a lot of "KIV?L? DOLGOZ?" badges. As you say, these are very attractive badges.Regards,Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimbineus Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 cimbineus,Another new badge that I have not seen before and I have a lot of "KIV?L? DOLGOZ?" badges. As you say, these are very attractive badges.Regards,Gordon Hi Gordon, It is very interesting that approximately from 1990 those badges became quite popular to collect and many of them gradually became very difficult to find items. I must admit that this is one of my favourite fields. Regards,cimbineus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Excellent!! I love these badges.Do you have a copy of the Kivalo Dolgazo book at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimbineus Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 ... Do you have a copy of the Kivalo Dolgazo book at all?If you mean the "KIT?NTETŐ JELV?NYEK ?S C?MEK A POLG?RI ?LETBEN, 1948-1990" from 1997, yes, I have one copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunyadi Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 Cimbineus - do you have a Kivalo Dolgozo for the Interior Ministry by chance??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimbineus Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Cimbineus - do you have a Kivalo Dolgozo for the Interior Ministry by chance??? Yes, I have that badge in my collection. It is extremely scarce in this category (RRR) which means, that it is almost impossible to find. Here is the picture: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimbineus Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Cimbineus - do you have a Kivalo Dolgozo for the Interior Ministry by chance???... and here is the back of that badge: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimbineus Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 (edited) Hello all, I offer here some vocabulary that might be useful for not native speaker collectors of Hungarian "KIV?L?" badges. I think you can see these words on this kind of badges quite often. MUNKA ? work, labourMUNK?S ? in general: worker, but mostly physical worker MUNK?SA ? worker of ?MUNK??RT ? for ? work (agricultural, excellent, etc.)KIV?L? ? excellent, the highest distinction.?RDEMES ? meritorious, a lower distinction.J? ? good, the lowest distinction.?LMUNK?S - front-runner (vanguard) worker, gafferDOLGOZ? ? employee in general (both physical and intellectual)DOLGOZ?JA ? employee of ?V?LLALAT ? company, firmINT?ZM?NY ? institutionTAN?CS ? council (the local organ of communist governance)MINISZT?RIUM ? ministryGY?R ? factoryMEZŐGAZDAS?G ? agricultureIPAR ? industryNEH?Z ? heavyK?NNYŰ ? lightB?NY?SZ ? minerB?NY?SZAT ? mining industryTANUL? ? pupilTANUL?S ? learningTANUL?S?RT -. For learningT?RSADALMI MUNKA? work done in public interests, "voluntary" that is free workAnd in general: ~a, ~ja, ~e, ~je at the end of a word usually means "of" ~?rt at the end of a word usually means "for" ~ban, ~ben at the end of a word usually means "in" ~?s, ~?s at the end of a word usually means "~ing", that is a process. (Example: TANUL ? to learn; TANUL?S ? learning) ~at, ~et at the end of a word usually means "~ing", "~y" or "~try", that is an activity or a field of activity. (Examples: B?NY?SZ ? miner, B?NY?SZAT ? mining; KOH?SZ ? metallurgist, KOH?SZAT ? metallurgy; VEGY?SZ ? chemist, VEGY?SZET - chemistry.) ~?sz, ~?sz at the end of a word usually means "~ist", "~er", "~or", e.t.c., that is a person who deals with something (Examples: B?NYA ? mine, B?NY?SZ ? miner, or M?H ? bee, M?H?SZ ? bee-keeper, KERT ? garden, KERT??SZ ? gardener; ?J?T?S ? innovation, ?J?T? - innovator.) I think it is enough for the first time. Regards, cimbineus Edited November 19, 2008 by cimbineus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 cimbineus,Thanks for the Sz?t?r (dictionary) of word endings. I am sure it will be a big help to our English speaking members who have no knowledge of Hungarian.Regards,Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 yes-thank you!!AND THAT BADGE-it is wonderful!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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