DK in Gold

[Gordon Williamson]

Lets see if anyone can ID the manufacturer of this one.

[Gordon Williamson]

Clue - it has five rivets

[Gordon Williamson]

BTT. I'd forgotten about this post. No one any guesses as to the maker ?????

[Jim P]

I'll take a stab at it. 5 rivets=C.E.Juncker

final answer

Jim P

[Gordon Williamson]

Good guess Jim, but wrong. Any others ?

Study it closely, there are some clues there.

[Jacques]

Godet

[Gordon Williamson]

Two Berlin makers suggested. Lets just say the city of manufacture was a bit further East.

Look at the silver disc the swastika sits on.

[Richard Gordon]

Looking at the size of that catch, I'd say a city in Latvia.

[Gordon Williamson]

Way off the mark Rich.

[Jacques]

the cross doens't correspond to whay I know. I though first of all it was an unknown (to me) variant of Godet. But Eastern Berlin, I don't see, except for fakes !

jacques

[Gordon Williamson]

OK, the name of the recipient of this 100% original period piece may help.

Leutnant (Ing) Hugo Seggermann, Leitender Ingenieur on U-862

[Biro]

OK, the name of the recipient of this 100% original period piece may help.

Leutnant (Ing) Hugo Seggermann, Leitender Ingenieur on U-862

heh heh.....

'Think further East...'

'A POW....'

Probably one clue too many...

Is it........ JAPANESE!!!

Marshall

Edited October 19, 2005 by Biro

[Mike]

Marshal ..I can't believe you , everyone knows the Japanese used slanted rivets come on now !

At first I thought it was a Deschler because of the fatter ribbons on the wreath but ..the wreath does not match , at least from the angle of the picture and ...I'm not sure if they made a 5 rivet version.

[Gordon Williamson]

heh heh.....

'Think further East...'

'A POW....'

Probably one clue too many...

Is it........ JAPANESE!!!

Marshall

Well done Marshall. The give away clue being that Seggermann served on a "Monsun" boat which operated out of a Japanese naval base in Penang. Most have heard of the Japanese made Auxiliary Cruiser badge, and of the EK1s with Japanese markings, but there were Knight's Crosses and DKs made out there too. Presumably sourced through the same jeweller firm in Yokahama with the help of Admiral Paul Wennecker, the German naval attache in Tokyo.

Note that the swastika can rotate around its central fixing rivet, hence the circular "score" line running around the silvered disc it sits on. No original German made piece has a swas that could rotate like this.

Otherwise a fairly faithful copy suggesting they had an original example to work from.

[joe campbell]

magnificent and historical find, gordon!

and kudos to marshall for coming up

with the correct answer.

one of those pieces you hear about,

but don't ever expect to actually see!

very nice.

joe

[Laurence Strong]

Very nice and interesting piece.

[Guest Darrell]

Great example Gordon. Bet a certain someone would scream "fake" and "Repro" because he doesnt have it in HIS collection ...

Keep 'em coming

Edited October 19, 2005 by Darrell

[Mike]

And here I thought Marshall was joking around with that "smilie face" added to the post.

I knew German awards were presented over there but never knew the Japanese actually produced a DKG ..does anyone know how many German awards the Japanese made total ?

Where and how did you find it Gordon ..what a gem !

Edited October 19, 2005 by Mike

[Mike]

It would be interesting to study it to see if one could ID which copmpany's DK was used as a model ...they may have even copied some of the details or flaws

[francisco v.]

OK, the name of the recipient of this 100% original period piece may help.

Leutnant (Ing) Hugo Seggermann, Leitender Ingenieur on U-862

Hello,

I was browsing old messages and found fascinating this. Never had heard of japanese made DK.

I also have something from U-862

a personal belonging of Korvettenkapit?n Timm

Regards

Francisco

[francisco v.]

Ink stamp of the prisioner's camp

Edited August 8, 2006 by francisco v.