Gordon Williamson Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Lets see if anyone can ID the manufacturer of this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted August 6, 2005 Author Share Posted August 6, 2005 Clue - it has five rivets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted October 18, 2005 Author Share Posted October 18, 2005 BTT. I'd forgotten about this post. No one any guesses as to the maker ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim P Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I'll take a stab at it. 5 rivets=C.E.Junckerfinal answer Jim P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted October 18, 2005 Author Share Posted October 18, 2005 Good guess Jim, but wrong. Any others ? Study it closely, there are some clues there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Godet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted October 18, 2005 Author Share Posted October 18, 2005 Two Berlin makers suggested. Lets just say the city of manufacture was a bit further East.Look at the silver disc the swastika sits on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Gordon Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Looking at the size of that catch, I'd say a city in Latvia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted October 18, 2005 Author Share Posted October 18, 2005 Way off the mark Rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 the cross doens't correspond to whay I know. I though first of all it was an unknown (to me) variant of Godet. But Eastern Berlin, I don't see, except for fakes !jacques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 OK, the name of the recipient of this 100% original period piece may help.Leutnant (Ing) Hugo Seggermann, Leitender Ingenieur on U-862 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biro Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 (edited) OK, the name of the recipient of this 100% original period piece may help.Leutnant (Ing) Hugo Seggermann, Leitender Ingenieur on U-862heh heh.....'Think further East...''A POW....'Probably one clue too many...Is it........ JAPANESE!!! Marshall Edited October 19, 2005 by Biro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Marshal ..I can't believe you , everyone knows the Japanese used slanted rivets come on now ! At first I thought it was a Deschler because of the fatter ribbons on the wreath but ..the wreath does not match , at least from the angle of the picture and ...I'm not sure if they made a 5 rivet version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 heh heh.....'Think further East...''A POW....'Probably one clue too many...Is it........ JAPANESE!!! MarshallWell done Marshall. The give away clue being that Seggermann served on a "Monsun" boat which operated out of a Japanese naval base in Penang. Most have heard of the Japanese made Auxiliary Cruiser badge, and of the EK1s with Japanese markings, but there were Knight's Crosses and DKs made out there too. Presumably sourced through the same jeweller firm in Yokahama with the help of Admiral Paul Wennecker, the German naval attache in Tokyo.Note that the swastika can rotate around its central fixing rivet, hence the circular "score" line running around the silvered disc it sits on. No original German made piece has a swas that could rotate like this. Otherwise a fairly faithful copy suggesting they had an original example to work from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe campbell Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 magnificent and historical find, gordon!and kudos to marshall for coming up with the correct answer.one of those pieces you hear about,but don't ever expect to actually see!very nice.joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Very nice and interesting piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darrell Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 (edited) Great example Gordon. Bet a certain someone would scream "fake" and "Repro" because he doesnt have it in HIS collection ... Keep 'em coming Edited October 19, 2005 by Darrell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 (edited) And here I thought Marshall was joking around with that "smilie face" added to the post.I knew German awards were presented over there but never knew the Japanese actually produced a DKG ..does anyone know how many German awards the Japanese made total ? Where and how did you find it Gordon ..what a gem ! Edited October 19, 2005 by Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 It would be interesting to study it to see if one could ID which copmpany's DK was used as a model ...they may have even copied some of the details or flaws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francisco v. Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 OK, the name of the recipient of this 100% original period piece may help.Leutnant (Ing) Hugo Seggermann, Leitender Ingenieur on U-862Hello,I was browsing old messages and found fascinating this. Never had heard of japanese made DK.I also have something from U-862 a personal belonging of Korvettenkapit?n TimmRegardsFrancisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francisco v. Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 (edited) Ink stamp of the prisioner's camp Edited August 8, 2006 by francisco v. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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