joetauchretter Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Hello , I would like your help in identifying this hand held flashlight / beacon lamp . I was told that this was a very late war Luftwaffe or Kleinkampfverbande light beacon . This is made from sheet steel and has a brittle plastic dome cover on the top . It is water proof and due to it's long length and the battery in the lower half this will float in an up right position . I do not see any markings on this lamp . The battery does have a paper label and is all in german . This is very old and the battery was made for this lamp . My question is , has anyone ever seen one of these and it is 100% German but is it Pre 1945 or post war ?Best Regards, Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetauchretter Posted April 27, 2007 Author Share Posted April 27, 2007 Here is a picture of the battery paper label . The only shread of proof that I have that this was used by the K-men , mostly the Linsen or Sprengboote when they jumped off their boots would use these to help in being spotted by the pick up boat is a bad copy of a film clip on the web site You Tube with the title " KARL D?ENITZ " .Best Regards, Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetauchretter Posted April 27, 2007 Author Share Posted April 27, 2007 OOOPPPSS ! Wrong picture !Here is the picture with the battery . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 HiWery interesting item,hope you can take more pics of the paper label. Nesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetauchretter Posted April 28, 2007 Author Share Posted April 28, 2007 Hello . Here are more pictures of the battery label .Best Regards, Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetauchretter Posted April 28, 2007 Author Share Posted April 28, 2007 Hello . Here are more pictures of the battery label .Best Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetauchretter Posted April 28, 2007 Author Share Posted April 28, 2007 Hello . Here are more pictures of the battery label .Best Regards, [ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetauchretter Posted April 28, 2007 Author Share Posted April 28, 2007 Hello . Here are more pictures of the battery label .Best Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetauchretter Posted April 28, 2007 Author Share Posted April 28, 2007 [Hello . Here are more pictures of the various parts to this signal beacon . .Please see the You Tube web site at this URL address http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OtZa4W4RlE , I believe this to show the same beacon lamp as I show here , If anyone has this film clip I would sure like a copy of it !Best Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 (edited) HelloVery nice and interesting lamp. I have never seen this one before. Snoopy Edited May 21, 2007 by Snoopy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetauchretter Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share Posted May 22, 2007 Hello , Did you view the movie clip on the web site You Tube yet ? The movie is a poor quality copy but my flashlight / beacon looks like what is hanging from the man's life jacket . I have seen a tauchretter said to be from a K-man and it had the same exact rope lanyard attached ( light was missing ! ) It is very interesting that in the You Tube movie clip the K-men in the spreng boats are wearing LW para helmets still sporting the LW eagle insignia on them ! So the K-men did wear / used borrowed LW equipment . I do hope that this is a late war beacon light , if someone could say that it is post war I would like to know the country , make and model of this . If you hold this in your hand you can tell it is very old and the battery is 100 % German and the light/ beacon was made to fit this battery . Maybe post war Bundesmarine ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 (edited) I have seen the video clip several times today. When the crewman exit's the boat, something that looks very much like your lamp, can be seen hanging from a lanyard. You mentioned Bundesmarine. If the Bundesmarine was reactivated at the same time as the Bundesluftwaffe and Heer, I believe that would make it, late fifties. Please, correct me if I am wrong. I think that your lamp looks older than that. I must add, that I am no expert, so it's only my personal thaugts, but if it was from the fifties, wouldn't it have some sort of Nato style number, and maybe a synthetic lanyard? I think that you have a very interesting lamp, and as you say, it might be late war Luftwaffe, or it might be a lamp specially designed for the K-men. I have seen a few of the more "ordinary" Luftwaffe beacon lamps, and I seem to remember, that these lamps allso lacks the Luftwaffe Fl. number. I really hope that you can get it confirmed as a K-man's beacon lamp. That would make it a real rarity, I think. Snoopy Edited May 22, 2007 by Snoopy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetauchretter Posted May 23, 2007 Author Share Posted May 23, 2007 I have seen the video clip several times today. When the crewman exit's the boat, something that looks very much like your lamp, can be seen hanging from a lanyard. You mentioned Bundesmarine. If the Bundesmarine was reactivated at the same time as the Bundesluftwaffe and Heer, I believe that would make it, late fifties. Please, correct me if I am wrong. I think that your lamp looks older than that. I must add, that I am no expert, so it's only my personal thaugts, but if it was from the fifties, wouldn't it have some sort of Nato style number, and maybe a synthetic lanyard? I think that you have a very interesting lamp, and as you say, it might be late war Luftwaffe, or it might be a lamp specially designed for the K-men. I have seen a few of the more "ordinary" Luftwaffe beacon lamps, and I seem to remember, that these lamps allso lacks the Luftwaffe Fl. number. I really hope that you can get it confirmed as a K-man's beacon lamp. That would make it a real rarity, I think. Hello, Yes , I must admit that this is a very rare item ! I have never seen one like this before . I have this in my tauchretter collection until someone can say for 100 percent certain that this is not a German light or it is post war . I feel that it is very late war and it sure does look like the object in the You Tube movie clip . I would like to find that movie on CD to see if I can see a better , clearer view of what I think is this light . I have purchased at least 4 books on the k-men , but most of the information and pictures are about the frogmen and not the spreng boat men . I feel that this beacon , which will float upright would be needed to rescue these men after they jumped out of their bomb laden boats . This item looks great in my collection but I would love to have an original picture of this in use next to my beacon lamp ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetauchretter Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 Hello, Well , after buying every book on the K-men I could find I think I have the picture that I have been searching so long for ! These beacon lamps seem to have been worn by k-men using the linsen / sprengboote . I think these would be used after the boat crewjumped over board so they can be seen in the water so the pilot boat can pick them up .Best Regards, Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Hello, Well , after buying every book on the K-men I could find I think I have the picture that I have been searching so long for ! These beacon lamps seem to have been worn by k-men using the linsen / sprengboote . I think these would be used after the boat crewjumped over board so they can be seen in the water so the pilot boat can pick them up .Best Regards, JoeHello!Good eye,thanks for nice photos. All the bestNesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fafnesbane Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Any more info on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 The question is.... at that late stage in the war did they really have the time/means/material to design and put something like this into production for such a small group of men, or did they use an item that was already in existence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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