Gerd Becker Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Another great group, Ed. Thanks for sharing Fingers crossed, that the research turnes up for this group.Gerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Spectacular group, Ed!! I look forward to seeing the research! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I'm having trouble with reading the stamps.he was apparently a Commissar.Note 3 light wound stripes on Orders Book photo.Caucausus is Political Administration ...K?nigsberg is Reserve Political Council....Warsaw is 21st Motorized....Caucasus and K'berg have units written out "P.U.S.G.B." NOT what the stamps say... and as ever,abbreviations thwart me. P olitical A dministration S omething S omething S omething. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted July 6, 2007 Author Share Posted July 6, 2007 Thanks, Rick. As the group is right here, of which stamps would you want to see better scans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 cropd and as big as can be posted all visible on monitor:Caucasus and Warsaw (rotated 180? they are upside down on the document)Victory Over Germany and K?nigsberg bigger and cropped1948 the stamp and written out unit abbreviations. This is one of those days having 1 eye is not working well.His jubilees are mainly from City of Belotserkovsky in Kiev Oblast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted July 6, 2007 Author Share Posted July 6, 2007 Caucasus: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ed_Haynes Posted July 6, 2007 Author Share Posted July 6, 2007 Victory Germany: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted July 6, 2007 Author Share Posted July 6, 2007 KB:(Pretty smudged!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted July 6, 2007 Author Share Posted July 6, 2007 1948 the stamp and written out unit abbreviations.Sorry, Rick,I am confused, well I am jetlagged, but I am confused too. What do you want?Thanks (as always) for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 AhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhHA!P.U.S.G.V. = Political Administration of Northern Group of Forces (Caucasus & Victory Over Germany)Now, I've never HEARD of the "Northern Group of Forces" during the war! Warsaw = 21st Motor(ized?) (Something)grad [Place name] [illegible) Red Banner Detachment.Now that's interesting, since the unit is an OTRYAD... "Detachment" as my limited knowledge associates with Civil War "bands" of partisans etc. NO clue how large or small an "Otryad" would have been in WW2-- have never seen that designation before after the 1920s! K?nigsberg = Reserve Political Staff of the Northern Group of Forces.There's THAT again!I have no clue what the "Northern Group of Forces" was. What usually turns up is something like the 3rd White Russian FRONT or whatever."Group of Forces" I associate only with the Soviet Group of Forces in occupied Germany after the war:perhaps THAT is where these were issued from? But then IN occupied Germany, what would the NORTHERN forces have been?Should have noted that he is a Captain of armored troops in that Orders Book photo, but had made major by 1948. And there's the rub--despite being one day apart, there are two completely different stamps for the same unit then, and both are splotchy, so trying to piece a whole together.His Warsaw was late (24.8.48)but his 1948 was early (23.8.48). The 1948 looks a bit clearer, but seems to say 21st Motorized TOPOGRAPHICAL.......so please do the whole bottom of that page, the stamp AND the unit written underneath it on the 1948 Jubilee.Verrrrrrry interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted July 6, 2007 Author Share Posted July 6, 2007 Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh. Now GOTTA get that service record and such. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 The Northern Group of Forces was located in Poland after the war:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Group_of_ForcesAlso see:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_Soviet_Forces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 His Warsaw was late (24.8.48)but his 1948 was early (23.8.48). The 1948 looks a bit cleaer, but seems to say 21st Motorized TOPOGRAPHICAL.......so please do the whole bottom of that page, the stamp AND the unit written underneath it on the 1948 Jubilee.Verrrrrrry interesting.Sorry this has taken so long. Life has been thus.The Warsaw: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 XXX Anniversary: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Ahhhhhaaaaaa, 21st Motorized Topographical "Stettin, Order of the Red Banner" Detachment.Whattttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttevvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvver THAT was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 Thanks (again), Rick. Now to wait and wait and wait for the research . . . . (I am promised "some stuff" at OMSA, so . . . .) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted November 25, 2007 Author Share Posted November 25, 2007 I am told the research has come in. The glacier moves . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) Research is in hand -- and it is quite a stack -- but, as has become habitual, the translations lag behind. Not sure whether to post. Edited December 4, 2007 by Ed_Haynes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Awards Record Card and front and back personnel file pages (stamp sized photo upper left) would be acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 OK, you asked for it . . . it will be rather complex . . . Two award record cards. Award record card 1 obverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 And reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 And the second one, obverse: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 And the reverse . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 Now, as to service records . . . the folded-card kind . . .what we'd call the 'short roll' . . . there are two. And one SEEMS more legible, but see below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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