tynesideirish Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 I have just read the post on Saddams medals and when reading that thought about Idi Amin for some reason. I did a search here in case it had already been covered but got nothing, also on Google there's plenty of stuff but nothing specific.I would like to know what he had (other than his Ugandan Victorious Cross) and if any one knows the whereabouts of them. I know he was a despot but its his Orders, medals etc I'm interested in. Chronology of Amin's military promotions King's African Rifles1946 Joins King's African Rifles1947 Private1952 Corporal1954 Effendi (Warrant Officer)1961 First Ugandan Commissioned Officer, Lieutenant Uganda Army1962 Captain1963 Major1964 Deputy Commander of the Army1965 Colonel, Commander of the Army1968 Major General1971 Head of StateChairman of the Defence CouncilCommander-in-Chief of the armed forcesArmy Chief of Staff and Chief of Air Staff1975 Field Marshal
Paul R Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 He looks like Forest Whitaker! That is a great photo, that I have not seen before. I read somewhere that he would institute medals to award to himself.
tynesideirish Posted October 12, 2007 Author Posted October 12, 2007 Yes he did, like the VC he copied the Victoria Cross and got it awarded to himself but obviously even he couldn't call it that so its a Uganda Victorious Cross, most of his medals are self awarded but thats no different to just about every other head of state.I know lots of Royalists will probably disagree here but:For instance, H.M. Queen Elizabeth gives all her family RVO's or and KMG, KG, KT etc I'm getting into murky waters that I don't wish to tread in but you'll notice when Prince Charles was married he had 2 non operational medals now he's got about 8 ...What are they for? How is getting medals off your Mum or Cousins (other Royal households) any worse than Idi?Before anyone starts I know there were a few Royals in Europe who earned their medals in various Wars, WWll Prince Philip and Mountbatten and even Andrew in the South Atlantic etc ... but the rest hand outs.
Megan Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Actually, the 'Royal' medal that amuses me the most is the Canadian Forces Decoration worn by Prince Charles - awarded in 2002 for long service as an honorary colonel-in-chief of several Canadian regiments!His medal bar currently consists of: -1. The Queen's Service Order (New Zealand) 2. Coronation Medal3. Silver Jubilee Medal 4. Golden Jubilee Medal 5. Canadian Decoration 6. The New Zealand Commemorative Medal Another amusing one is worn by Princess Anne. In 1953 as a badly-behaved 3-year old she was not allowed to attend her mother's Coronation, while her elder brother went along and was duly awarded 'his first medal' - the Coronation one. Pictures taken at the time show the 2 of them in white outfits, him wearing the gong and her not... a bone of contention at the time, I believe. Only now, when in uniform, she wears one...
stephenmiller Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Any photos of Idi Amin's Victorious Cross and other Ugandan awards, both past and current, floating around to post?
Ed_Haynes Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Back on topic . . . I have been in e-mail contact with Idi Amin Dada's son and he does not possess a list of his late father's awards or know where they are today.He is trying to find some information or even more detailed pictures.
Megan Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 The Ugandan Victorious Cross is described as being in the form of the Victoria Cross, but the obverse bearing a bust of Idi Amin and the legend "For God and my Country", and the reverse with central Arms of Uganda and the legend "For Supreme Valour" below.
Bear Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Hello,I'm not sure if any of this helps.A website with some Uganda medals.http://www.jeanpaulleblanc.comhttp://www.jeanpaulleblanc.com/Uganda.htmHere are a few pictures.top - Forest Whittaker's movie uniform at the Hollywood Museummiddle - Forest Whittaker's movie medalsbottom - Idi Amin's medalsthanks,barry
Megan Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 I do not have a picture of the Victorious Cross, but here is the Distinguished Service Order, instituted 1972.
David S Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 (edited) Here are two more picsIf I remember correctly he created and awarded himself the title C.B.E. (Conquerer of the British Empire) Edited October 13, 2007 by David S
tynesideirish Posted October 13, 2007 Author Posted October 13, 2007 This is turning out better than I expected. I wonder how many of those where self inflicted and how many given by his neighbours?
Ed_Haynes Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 (edited) Most of the breast stars seem to have been awarded by other states. Hope to get a partial list from the images David found. At first glance, I see Jordan, Central African Empire/Republic, Libya, and others. Edited October 14, 2007 by Ed_Haynes
Bear Posted October 14, 2007 Posted October 14, 2007 Hello,Here ia a picture of Idi Amin with his ribbon bar on Time.thanks,barry
Megan Posted October 14, 2007 Posted October 14, 2007 One of the stars is the Order of Merit of the Central African Republic: -
Bear Posted October 14, 2007 Posted October 14, 2007 Hello,This is I found this that might be useful to someone who can find it.Twining, E. F. "Uganda Medals and Decorations" Uganda Journal [Kampula],2 ,No.3, January 1935, 209-225.thanks,barry
Paul R Posted October 14, 2007 Posted October 14, 2007 Back on topic . . . I have been in e-mail contact with Idi Amin Dada's son and he does not possess a list of his late father's awards or know where they are today.He is trying to find some information or even more detailed pictures.My God Ed! How do you do it? Barry, Thank you for the great photos.
Megan Posted October 14, 2007 Posted October 14, 2007 He's a professional historian and researcher... Useful chap to know, if your interests coincide.
eitze Posted October 14, 2007 Posted October 14, 2007 Don`t know much about Idi Amin`s medals, but here is my small Uganda collection.First, as shown above, the Distinguished Service Order.275 were produced by Spink & Son for the Amin Regime.
eitze Posted October 14, 2007 Posted October 14, 2007 And last the Republic of Uganda Medal, also made by Spink & Son.Werlich wrote in his book: "It is believed that this medal will be awarded primarily to those supporters of General Amin, who were imprisoned by former President Obote".Don?t know if this is correct ?By the way - "The last king of Scotland" is a very good film But if you want to see the real Amin, try to get Barbet Schroeder`s film "General Idi Amin Dada - a Self Portrait". I`ve got the DVD and it is great. The filmmusic was by Idi Amin Dada himself After the film was released, Idi Amin threatened to harm 150 French citizen living in Uganda if certain cuts were not made. Schroeder agreed to remove 2 Minutes and 21 Seconds of the film, but once Amin was out of power the cuts were restored!greetings eitze
leigh kitchen Posted October 14, 2007 Posted October 14, 2007 The Time photo - interesting to see that he wears the non-combat jump blue backing to his Israeli inspired para wings rather than the red combat jump backing (assuming the backings followed Israeli practise).I know he did'nt jump at the Mitla Pass but I would have thought he would have preferred the higher status backing colour.
Guest Rick Research Posted October 14, 2007 Posted October 14, 2007 Huuuuuuuuuuuh? WALDECK AND UGANDA?Now THERE'S an odd collecting pair!!!!
Paul R Posted October 14, 2007 Posted October 14, 2007 What was the Uganda medal awarded for? Is this medal still in the Ugandan inventory for medals that can be currently awarded? I really like the "Last King of Scotland". I will definitely have to check out "General Idi Amin Dada - a Self Portrait". When was it released?
eitze Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 @ Rick:Before Waldeck I was completely BLACK @ Paul:As I wrote, the only info known to me is from the Werlich book.I can`t believe that a medal with the illustration of Idi Amin is still awarded in Uganda today !!!For the DVD - here we go:http://www.criterion.com/asp/release.asp?id=153greetingseitze
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