Ed_Haynes Posted November 22, 2007 Author Posted November 22, 2007 And, finally, that tiny (52 x 75 mm) little certificate for the 25th GPW anniversary badge.
Ed_Haynes Posted November 22, 2007 Author Posted November 22, 2007 The other certificates are there (except a few, like the Khalkin Gol and border guards badge, that are missing ) and are familiar enough.One unusual one (and a badge which, it seems, I neglected to scan along with his awards -- oops) for the Best Student of the MPA (Battuahig C22) and since we don't see these badge certificates very often, this one may be worth adding.
Ed_Haynes Posted November 22, 2007 Author Posted November 22, 2007 Inside. A translation plea will go off on this one.
Ferdinand Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 (edited) Funny, his first Soviet Order Booklet gives his name as 'Dondon Tsirinzhab', his second Booklet as 'Damdingyn Tserenzhav' and his Victory over Germany certificate as 'Damdny Tserenzhav'. Edited November 23, 2007 by Ferdinand
Ed_Haynes Posted November 22, 2007 Author Posted November 22, 2007 I suspect the Soviets always had trouble figuring out how to write Mongolian names? We do too?
Guest Rick Research Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 Yeah, that's hopeless.However... thanks to Steen Ammentorp's constantly invaluable website, the indecipherable Field Post UNIT on the Victory Over Japan is signed VERY clearly bya very interesting personage, indeed. (And this fills in a gap for Steen as well)Military Intelligence, no less. His blue covered 1970 Victory Jubilee is the type normally awarded to Generals-- though his rank there is Colonel. Also no serial number edition range on it, another difference from the Soviet recipients.
NavyFCO Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 Ed-Fascinating! These are the second (and third) documented Red Stars that I've seen to a Mongolian. The other documented one was given the same day and is award number 3700404 and the other that I got from a Mongolian dealer (sans document) was 3700416. Obviously, we can now say that the range for Red Stars to Mongolians runs from 3700041 to 3700416. If I had to venture a guess, I'd say that there were probably 500 awarded, probably running from 3700000 to 3700500. That seemed to be a rough "lot" number from previous research.As far as researching one of these, I haven't seen any research come back for a Red Star to a Mongolian yet, even though I've attempted to research the others that I've had. If you can get anything back, it will be a first, but I hope you can!Good find!Dave
NavyFCO Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 I'll be darned... just looking at my unresearched Red Stars and I found one...1780032! I bet it was awarded to a Mongolian as well!Dave
Ed_Haynes Posted November 23, 2007 Author Posted November 23, 2007 Fascinating!!So . . . the Soviet Red Stars to Mongolians that we have on record:96989 - to Bato-oshrin (1943)1780032 (reported by Dave, MAYBE)1780090 - to Tserenjav (1950)3700041 - to Tserenjav (1971)3700404 (reported by Dave)3700416 (reported by Dave)So far, all I have seen on research was that record-card-only return for Bato-oshrin (based on his document only, star missing) over at http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=14692 -- shall be submitting Tserenjav's two and hoping and waiting and waiting and hoping.
Guest Rick Research Posted November 23, 2007 Posted November 23, 2007 Betcha the 1971 awards are in connection with the 50th anniversary of their revolution/armed forces.
Ed_Haynes Posted November 29, 2007 Author Posted November 29, 2007 Another Red Star warded to a Mongolian, see http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=23503
Ed_Haynes Posted February 6, 2009 Author Posted February 6, 2009 Research on the first of his two Red Stars is in hand. Will post it when the translation is done.
Ed_Haynes Posted February 10, 2009 Author Posted February 10, 2009 But, as it went up the chain of command . . . .
Ed_Haynes Posted February 10, 2009 Author Posted February 10, 2009 Expect (hope?) to get his second Red Star soon(ish) .....
Bob Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=39929&pid=369611&st=0&#entry369611 Another one
Bob Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=39929&pid=369611&st=0&#entry369611 Another one Could a russian speaking forum member please help (clicking on above link) to identify a badge and translate the small badge document to a Mongolian Major General? Thanks!
Bob Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Ed- Fascinating! These are the second (and third) documented Red Stars that I've seen to a Mongolian. The other documented one was given the same day and is award number 3700404 and the other that I got from a Mongolian dealer (sans document) was 3700416. Obviously, we can now say that the range for Red Stars to Mongolians runs from 3700041 to 3700416. If I had to venture a guess, I'd say that there were probably 500 awarded, probably running from 3700000 to 3700500. That seemed to be a rough "lot" number from previous research. As far as researching one of these, I haven't seen any research come back for a Red Star to a Mongolian yet, even though I've attempted to research the others that I've had. If you can get anything back, it will be a first, but I hope you can! Good find! Dave Hi Dave (and others:)) - suggest to have a look at the following thread: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=39929&pid=377910&st=20&#entry377910 The "range" appears to be much more narrow.
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