Peter Nyitrays collections of Hungarian and Austro-Hungarian militaria.

[JohnHajnal]

Hi Peter,

Where did you get the Zaszlos tunic?

John

[Peter Orincsay]

Hello John!

I am not really sure of the origin of my Z?szl?s (Warrant Officer) tunic. I was found hidden in the basement among my late grandfathers belongings.

Since he never were a Z?szl?s (Warrant Officer), he went straight to Hadnagy (Lieutenant) after graduating the Ludovika Military (Budapest) academy in 1937.

And I?m still not 100% sure what the purple colour is for military branch.

The tunic is in mint condition and with a nice taylors tag inside. The tag says: N?das ?s Osz?czky - ?ri ?s Egyenruha Szab?k - Budapest, IV Esk? T?r 1. (N?das & Osz?czky - Gentlemen and Uniform taylors, Budapest 4th district Esk? Squere 1.)

[Peter Orincsay]

The tag.

[Peter Orincsay]

The tunic.

[JohnHajnal]

Hello John!

I am not really sure of the origin of my Z?szl?s (Warrant Officer) tunic. I was found hidden in the basement among my late grandfathers belongings.

Since he never were a Z?szl?s (Warrant Officer), he went straight to Hadnagy (Lieutenant) after graduating the Ludovika Military (Budapest) academy in 1937.

And I?m still not 100% sure what the purple colour is for military branch.

The tunic is in mint condition and with a nice taylors tag inside. The tag says: N?das ?s Osz?czky - ?ri ?s Egyenruha Szab?k - Budapest, IV Esk? T?r 1. (N?das & Osz?czky - Gentlemen and Uniform taylors, Budapest 4th district Esk? Squere 1.)

Hi Peter,

The branch is ordnance I believe. I ask because I was offered a tunic with the exact same branch/rank

[hunyadi]

FAKES...?

During my years of collecting i encountered many really ugly pieces. Some are pure fantasy thing only to fool the amateur collectors and make money to greedy fakers..

I don't know the origins of these pieces but in my eyes they look like bad fakes. The sellers talk that they were made during the war, and that there was no time to make them properly.

Sounds like just like it is... Just greedy sells talk..

I don?t like to display garbage, but i do it just so no one should pay for things like this!

The first piece is a "Vit?zs?gert" (for bravery) medal. The details near the upper ring looks to amature for a medal of this kind. The brass (original in bronze) feels thin, the hanger ring is also very poorly made.

Just for others information - these are easily distinguished from the originals as the "ring" around the perimeter is wider on one side than the other. Just FYI

[Peter Orincsay]

The military Signum Laudis awarded during peace time. The green trifold band was reversed to red in 1939 when it was awarded during wartime. A civilian version was also awarded with a entire green trifold band as well.

[Peter Orincsay]

My latest addition to my Hungarian collection. A lieutenant (F?hadnagy) tunic. The green infantry collar is a later type with brass metal officer stars.

[nesredep]

The tunic.

Hello!

Vert nice uniform.

All the best

Nesredep

[Peter Orincsay]

A close-up photo of the green infantry collar with the brass metal officer stars.

[nesredep]

The tag.

Hello!

Amazing LABEL.

All the best

Nesredep

[Peter Orincsay]

This also came in this week. A Combat leadership badge (Csapattiszti jelv?ny) with red colour fabric in the back of the badge, this marks the artillery branch.

[nesredep]

This also came in this week. A Combat leadership badge (Csapattiszti jelv?ny) with red colour fabric in the back of the badge, this marks the artillery branch.

Hello!

Amazing find,congrats.

Al the best

Nesredep

[Peter Orincsay]

The Austro-Hungarian 1861-Model officers sabre was widely used during the double empire as well as the Horthy Titular kingdom.

Here?s my piece.

[Peter Orincsay]

A detailed picture of the handle.

[Gordon Craig]

Peter,

Great pictures of the sword. As usual. Are there any markings on the blade? I have wanted to add a period sword to my collection but not knowing anything about swords I have stayed away from them. There are so many that look alike!

Regards,

Gordon

[Peter Orincsay]

I haven?t updated for a while, but i haven?t stopped collecting.

Here?s just some of the things i added to my collection of Hungarian and Austro-Hungarian militaria.

Some months ago I finally managed to get an original, mint-conditioned Hungarian "Kepi-style" offices hat.

The model was a remain from Austro-Hungarian times, but modified to the Horthy, Titular kingdom (1920-1944) format,

with the Hungarian national colours inside the crest in front.

It was worn like this by all officers from second lieutenant up to generals.

Lower ranked NCO?s used the brown hat, that I have displayed earlier inside this topic series.

[Peter Orincsay]

I received not long ago a nice Bocz?n, Order of Vit?z badge with beautifully preserved enamel.

[Peter Orincsay]

I was also lucky to get a WW1, Austro-Hungarian cap badge from the 68th K.u.K (Kaiser und K?nig, = Austro-Hungary) infantry regiment from Szolnok in Hungary.

The dealer at the Gothenburg military fair wasn?t sure what it was, and sold it to me for less then 2 Euro.

[Peter Orincsay]

At the same military fair i found this to my Austro-Hungarian 1861-Model officers sabre.

The black and yellow were the Austrian Hapsburg colours.

I wonder what the red/brown stains are on this piece? Maybe some old remains of some duelling?

(I'm sorry, but i was not sure of the correct English word for this sabre attachment.)

[Ulsterman]

nice regimental badge.

Do you know of any resources out there on these badges? There seem to have been hundreds of them.

[Gordon Craig]

Peter,

The latest addition to your sword is referred to as a "Sword Knot".

Regards,

Gordon

[Gordon Craig]

Ulsterman,

There are no books that I am aware of that try to catalogue all of the different "Kappenabzeichen". That would be an enormous task. There is a small book by Roberto Todero called "KAPPENABZEICHEN" DISTINTIVI DA BERRETTO AUSTROUNGARICI" which is mostly in Italian with a German section in the back that covers the cap badges shown in the book. I bought a copy of this book during my last trip to Vienna and unless it happens to have the specific badge you are trying to gain info on it would not be a great addition to your library. There are only 47 badges in it that are covered to any depth.

Regards,

Gordon

[Peter Orincsay]

nice regimental badge.

Do you know of any resources out there on these badges? There seem to have been hundreds of them.

Just a quick google gave me this information.

1.) B?hm-Ermolli

2.) B?hm-Ermolli

3.) B?hm-Ermolli

Edited April 29, 2009 by Peter Nyitray

[Peter Orincsay]

This week i was able to add this beautiful "Moritz Tiller" bronze Signum Laudis in it?s original case to my collection.

I already have this medal in my collection but the box was a beauty itself so i couldn't?t resist.