Ed_Haynes Posted May 2, 2007 Author Posted May 2, 2007 (edited) 106904 Head Clerk Gata Ram. Bengal Engineers Group, Indian Engineers1- General Service Medal, 1947 - Jammu and Kashmir, 1947-48 - "106904 H-CLK. GATA RAM, BENGAL ENGR. GP., I.E."2- Independence Medal, 1947 - unnamed3- 1939-45 Star - "106904 HAV/CLK. GITA RAM, BENGAL S. & M. GP. R.I.E."4- Burma Star - "106904 HAV/CLK. GITA RAM, BENGAL S. & M. GP. R.I.E."5- WWII War Medal - "106904 HAV/CLK. GITA RAM, BENGAL S. & M. GP. R.I.E."Many thanks to the forum friend who helped this come live with me. Edited May 2, 2007 by Ed_Haynes 1
Ed_Haynes Posted May 23, 2007 Author Posted May 23, 2007 Sad news. The medal mounting and ribbon making gentleman in New Delhi used by me and by many of us, directly or indirectly, has passed away. A true gentleman and craftsman of the old school he will be missed.A moment oif silence, please.This leaves me with many "naked" groups I had not wanted to post until they were properly garbed.I shall post a few, on and off, as I can.JC-48211 Subadar Kartar Chand, Signals1- Paschimi Star - "JC 48211 SUB K CHAND SIGS"2- Sangram Medal - ""JC 48211 SUB KAHTAR CHAND SIGS3- Samniya Seva, Jammu-Kashmir - "JC-48211 SUB. KARTAR CHAND, SIGS."4- 25th Independence - "JC 48211 SUB KARTAR CHAND SIGS"5- 20 Year - "JC-48211 SUB. KARTAR CHAND, SIGS."6- 9 Year - missingAn interesting all-Subadar group? 1
Ed_Haynes Posted May 23, 2007 Author Posted May 23, 2007 (edited) Jemadar Kishan Singh, Recruiting Staff1- Independence Medal - "JEMDR. H.C. KISHAN SINGH, RCTG, STAFF."2- War Medal - "I.O. 30713 JEMDR. KISHAN SINGH, RCTG, STAFF."3- India service Medal - "I.O. 30713 JEMDR. KISHAN SINGH, RCTG, STAFF.""H.C." = Head ClerkApril 1944 IALRecruiting StaffSubedars/Jemedars (Head Clerks) non technical recruting organisationdate of enrolement : 10/9/39KISHAN SINGH, JemedarDate of substantive rank : 6/4/43date in present appointment : 6/4/43Remarks : Rawalpindi Edited May 24, 2007 by Ed_Haynes 1
Ed_Haynes Posted May 23, 2007 Author Posted May 23, 2007 (edited) N/902511 Lance Naik Nagina Singh, Army Service Corps (Motorized Transport)1- Independence Medal - "N/902511 L/NK. HAGINA SINGH, A.S.C.(M.T.)"2- Defence Medal - "MTN/902511 SEP. NAGINA SINGH, R.I.A.S.C.(M.T.)"3- War Medal - "MTN/902511 SEP. NAGINA SINGH, R.I.A.S.C.(M.T.)"4- Indian Overseas Badge5- Unofficial George VI Coronation Medal Edited May 23, 2007 by Ed_Haynes 1
Ed_Haynes Posted May 23, 2007 Author Posted May 23, 2007 2442121 Lance Naik Dalbir Singh, Punjab Regiment1- General Service Medal - "2442121 L-NK. DALBIR SINGH, PUNJAB R."2- Raksha Medal - "2442121 SEP DALBIR SINGH PUNJAB R"3- Videsh Seva Medal, United Arab Republic - "2442121 L-NK. DALBIR SINGH, PUNJAB R."4- United Nations, UNEF Medal 1
Ed_Haynes Posted May 23, 2007 Author Posted May 23, 2007 And one more, out of a boxfull set aside to take next time. Acting Major Gurpal Singh, 1st Patiala Rajindra Lancers1- Independence Medal - "IEC-12003 LT. GURPAL SINGH, PATIALA S. F."2- War Medal - "SS-16201 A-MAJOR GURPAL SINGH, PATIALA S.F."3- India Service Medal - "SS-16201 A-MAJOR GURPAL SINGH, PATIALA S.F."1st Patiala Rajindra Lancers - reorganized 11 April 1889; reorganized 16 September 1926; reorganized 16 October 1932Entered service 6 October 1930First Commission 2 May 1932Captain 2 May 19411 July 1944 - T/Major, 2nd-in-command, 1st Paiala (Rajindra) Lancers15 - Field Works Course (All Arms), Indian States Forces31-J - Junior Wing of Tactical School, Poona54 - Qualified at D and M Course, AhmednagarThe Rajindra Lancers spent most of the war in India but moved to Egypt in May 1945, followed by a short tour in Palestine before going on to Aden in November 1945 where it remained until returning to India on 30 March 1946. Uniform dark green, facings yellow. 1
Ed_Haynes Posted May 24, 2007 Author Posted May 24, 2007 Obviously, a broken group, but still a nice pair.11360 Wing Commander Vinod Agnihotri, VSM, Indian Air Force1- Videsh Seva, Oman - "13360 WG CDR V AGNIHOTRI IAF"2- Nine Year Service Medal - "13360 WG CDR V AGNIHOTRI IAF"With "Oman" being a fairly uncommon clasp to the Videsh Seva Medal.Chacking Jagan's fine database -- http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Database/index.html -- I find that 13360 Wing Commander Vinod Agnihotri was an IAF medical officer. He was awarded the Vishisht Seva Medal, GoI, 26 January 1995. 1
Michael Johnson Posted May 24, 2007 Posted May 24, 2007 (edited) The Rajindra Lancers spent most of the war in India but moved to Egypt in May 1945, followed by a short tour in Palestine before going on to Aden in November 1945 where it remained until returning to India on 30 March 1946.Ed, I'm fairly sure that I've seen a GSM "Palestine 1945-48" to the Patiala Lancers. In fact I think I added that unit in my update to the previous edition of Gordon's. Edited May 24, 2007 by Michael Johnson
Ed_Haynes Posted May 24, 2007 Author Posted May 24, 2007 Ed, I'm fairly sure that I've seen a GSM "Palestine 1945-48" to the Patiala Lancers. In fact I think I added that unit in my update to the previous edition of Gordon's.I know the Jodhpur Lancers were there, but have no evidence of the 2nd Patiala Lancers in Palestine (and Head and McClanaghan don't show them either).
Michael Johnson Posted May 24, 2007 Posted May 24, 2007 I know the Jodhpur Lancers were there, but have no evidence of the 2nd Patiala Lancers in Palestine (and Head and McClanaghan don't show them either)."Memory like a sieve! Be forgetting the names of me hounds next!" Un-named Yeomanry Colonel, Iraq 1941.
Ed_Haynes Posted July 6, 2007 Author Posted July 6, 2007 Just retrieved, one of the last sets of groups to come for me from the Grand Old Man of New Delhi medal mounting:(2452100 Lance/Naik Shangara Singh, Punjab Regiment1- Wound Medal - "2452100 SEP SHANGARA SINGH PUNJAB R"2- GSM 1947, Mizo Hills - "2452100 SEP S SINGH PUNJAB R"3- Raksha Medal 1965 - "2452100 SEP SHANGARA S PUNJAB R"4- Sangram Medal, 1971 - "2452100 L/NK SHANGARA SINGH PUNJAB R"5- Sainya Seva, NEFA - "2452100 SEP SHANGARA SINGH PUNJAB R"6- 25th Independence - "2452100 L/NK S SINGH PUNJAB R"7- Nine Year Service - "2452100 SEP SHANGARA SINGH PUNJAB R" 1
Ed_Haynes Posted July 6, 2007 Author Posted July 6, 2007 6440105 Acting Lance Dafadar Sadhu Singh, Army Service Corps (Animal Transport)1- GSM 1947 Jammu and Kashmir - "6440105 A-L-DFDR. SADHU SINGH, A.S.C. A.T."2- Sainya Seva Medal Jammu Kashmir - "6440105 L-NK. SADHU SINGH, A.S.C. A.T."3- Independence Medal - "793983 DVR. SADHU SINGH, A.S.C. (A.T.)"4- 1939-45 Star - "793983 A-L-DFDR. SADHU SINGH, R.I.A.S.C. (A.T.)"5- Burma War - "793983 A-L-DFDR. SADHU SINGH, R.I.A.S.C. (A.T.)"6- War Medal 1939-45 - "793983 A-L-DFDR. SADHU SINGH, R.I.A.S.C. (A.T.)" 1
Ed_Haynes Posted July 6, 2007 Author Posted July 6, 2007 (edited) ??? Nanda Ram, Indian Police1- Independence Medal 1950 - Mounted backwards:( - unnamed as usual2- 1939-45 Star - "MTN/SEP. NANDA RAM, R.I.A.S.C. (M.T.)"3- Africa Star - "MTN/SEP. NANDA RAM, R.I.A.S.C. (M.T.)"4- Italy Star - "MTN/SEP. NANDA RAM, R.I.A.S.C. (M.T.)"5- Defence Medal -"MTN/SEP. NANDA RAM, R.I.A.S.C. (M.T.)"6- War Medal1939-45 - "MTN/SEP. NANDA RAM, R.I.A.S.C. (M.T.)"Served in motorised transport during WWII and then, by 1950, joined the police (upon demobilization?). Edited July 6, 2007 by Ed_Haynes 1
Ed_Haynes Posted July 6, 2007 Author Posted July 6, 2007 V-75 Colonel Karam Singh, Staff (Remount Veterinary Corps)born 18 January 1918WWII (?) entered service, rising to Risaldar (V-673)2nd Lt (Emergency) - 13 March 1944 (VL-198)W. S. Captain - 13 November 1946September 1952 - Veterinary Officer of a DivisionNovember 1957 - Veterinary Officer, Mill Farm, Kanpurearly 1960s (?) transferred to regular commission (V-75)Still serving 1972The group:1- Samar Seva Star - V-75 COL. KARAM SINGH, STAFF.2- Raksha Medal 1965 - V-75 A-COL. KARAM SINGH, STAFF.3- Sangram Medal, 1971 - V-75 COL. KARAM SINGH.4- Sainya Seva, J&K - V-75 MAJ. KARAM SINGH, R.V.C.5- Independence Medal 1947 - ribbon only6- 25th Independence Anniversary Medal - V-75 COL. KARAM SINGH.7- 20 Year - V-75 COL. KARAM SINGH.8- 9 Year - V-75 COL. KARAM SINGH.9- 1939-45 Star - V-673 RISALDAR KARAM SINGH, R.V.F.C.10- Burma Star - V-673 RISALDAR KARAM SINGH, R.V.F.C.11- WWII War Medal - V-673 RISALDAR KARAM SINGH, R.V.F.C. 1
Ed_Haynes Posted July 6, 2007 Author Posted July 6, 2007 And, while not the world's best scanned photo, here is is. Getting better image. 1
Ed_Haynes Posted July 6, 2007 Author Posted July 6, 2007 (edited) OK, some of you know how I feel about the Indian Police. Then or now. But, for some strange cosmic reason nice police groups contiune to seek me out. The latest, as received (though mostly cased).Bakshi Badri Nath, I.P.S., Assistant Dir. S.I.B., Amritsar1- President's Police and Fire Services Medal for Distinguished Service - "Bakshi Badri Nath, I.P.S., Assistant Dir. S.I.B., Amritsar"2- Independence Medal 19503- King's Police Medal for Distinguished Service - "RAI BAHADUR BADRI NATH SUPDT. OF POLICE, C.I.D. (OFFG.), PUNJAB" - London Gazette,1 January 1948, one of those rare post-Independence "Dominion"awards of the KPM (and,note, it is still the "INDIAE IMP" variety even though those weren't the king's titles then!)4- George VI Rai Bahadur - "Mr. Bakshi Badri Nath, 1st Jany. 1942" - The recommendation remains elusive suggesting it was a politically "loaded" one. (And he wears this out of order, after the KPM, so I keep it there.)5- British War Medal- unnamed6- War Medal 1939-45 - unnamed7- George VI Coronation MedalMuch research remains . . . . Edited July 6, 2007 by Ed_Haynes 1
Ed_Haynes Posted July 6, 2007 Author Posted July 6, 2007 And -- brave (?) man that he was -- he wore the Rai Bahadur on his ribbon bars, both pre- and post-Independence, and with his Coronation Medal in an odd place. 1
Ed_Haynes Posted July 6, 2007 Author Posted July 6, 2007 Though the WWII medals are all unnamed it is still a pretty group, I think.7341 Havildar Chain Singh, Machine Gun Battalion,Dogra Regiment1- Independence Medal - unnamed2- IGS 1936 - "7341 SEPOY CHAIN SINGH,1-17 DOGRA R."3- 1939-45 Star - unnamed4- Burma Star - unnamed5- War Medal1939-45 - unnamed6- India Service Medal - unnamed7- General Service Medal S-E Asia 1945-46 -"7341 HAV.CHAIN SINGH, M.G.BN.,DOGRA R." 1
Ed_Haynes Posted July 8, 2007 Author Posted July 8, 2007 Also unbathed and naked, but nice.3953226 Sepoy Udham Singh, Dogra Regiment1- Samar Seva Star - "3953226 SEP UDHAM SINGH DOGRA"2- Raksha Medal - "3953226 SEP UDHAM SINGH DOGRA R"3- Sangram Medal - "3953226 SEP UDHAM SINGH DOGRA"4- Sainya Seva Medal "Jammu Kashmir" - "3953226 SEP. UDHAM SINGH, DOGRA R."5- Videsh Seva Medal "United Arab Republic" - "3953226 SEP. UDHAM SINGH, DOGRA R."6- UN UNEF - unnamed as usualWhile there has been an effort at either testing the silver-colored medals or at erasing the name on those, all is legible and the star is untouched. 1
RobW Posted July 25, 2010 Posted July 25, 2010 (edited) To Ed and all, I recently came across this group to a member of the Sikh Light Infantry. Of interest is that one of the medals is missing and I'm not too sure if it has come adrift from the group or was not yet attached. I noticed on this thread that it seems to be a seemingly regular occurrence to have medals missing from groups. The details of the individual are: 4444408 Lance Naik Joginder Singh, Sikh Light Infantry My limited knowledge of Indian medals has identified the group as: * General Service Medal 1947, Naga Hills * Pashchimi Star, 1971 * Raksha Medal, 1965 (not present) * Sangram Medal, 1971 * Sainya Seva Medal - (unsure of the clasp name) * 25th Independence Anniversary Medal, 1972 * 9 Years Long Service Medal Do I have these details correct? Any other information of note, or opinions would be gratefully received. Regards, Rob Edited July 25, 2010 by RobW 1
Sahil117 Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 On 5/23/2007 at 23:04, Ed_Haynes said: Any chance the group is on sale sir?? (Fingers crossed.. )
Sahil117 Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 On 9/16/2005 at 00:57, Ed_Haynes said: 4438239 Naib Subadar Ajit Singh, Sikh Light Infantry 1- The General Service Medal, 1947 - GOA 1961 - 4438239 SEP. AJIT SINGH, SIKH L. I. 2- Samanya Seva Medal, 1965 - Kucch - Kargil 1965 - 4438239 HAV. AJIT SINGH, S. L. I. 3- Samar Seva Star, 1965 - 4438239 HAV. AJIT SINGH SIKH L. I. 4- Poorvi Star, 1971 - 4438239 AJIT SINGH SIKH L I 5- Paschimi Star, 1971 - 4438239 HAV. AJIT SINGH SIKH L I 6- Raksha Medal, 1965 - unnamed 7- Sangram Medal, 1971 - 4438239 HAV. AJIT SINGH SIKH L I 8- Sainya Seva Medal - Himalaya - 4438239 NB-SUB. AJIT SINGH SIKH L I 9- 25th Independence Anniversary Medal, 1972 - 4438239 HAV. AJIT SINGH SIKH L I 10- Twenty Years Long Service Medal - 4438239 HAV. AJIT SINGH, S. L. I. 11- Nine Years Long Service Medal - 4438239 NK. AJIT SINGH, S.L.I. Hi Ed! Hello everybody! Was wondering how the same individual served on BOTH fronts in the 1971 war? I would say it may be possible in the case of an officer posted on staff duties in a HQ during the war; it may certainly even be plausible in the case of an Indian Air Force (IAF) officer- given the few and precious assets available then, but i fail to understand how this may be true for a JCO, seemingly posted in a Sikh LI Bn during the War? Unless of course, this Bn was air lifted from the East to the West or vice versa...??
Gordon Craig Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 Sahil, Ed no longer posts on this forum so you will probably not get an answer from him. You pose an interesting question though and I will have to give it some thought. Regards, Gordon
Sushil Talwar Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 Sahil, My dad has both the Stars for 71, he served in the West (opened up the defunct Monabao - Khokrapar railway lines) and the East (a few covert and overt jobs and finally Dacca).
Deben Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 Hello everyone, I have this group awarded to Sep. Sukhdev Singh, which is missing a Sangram medal. I intend to have it mounted, and would like your advice on whether I should include an un named replacement medal to complete the group, or leave it as it is. Many thanks for your help. 1
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