michael smith Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Hi.Everyone. I would like to show you my cased 2nd.pat.blood order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael smith Posted March 12, 2008 Author Share Posted March 12, 2008 Sorry duplicate image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanCz Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Rather nice - - - thank you for sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Wow!! This is a top shelf piece! Maybe one day a roster will come out so it can be determined who the medal was awarded to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael smith Posted March 12, 2008 Author Share Posted March 12, 2008 Wow!! This is a top shelf piece! Maybe one day a roster will come out so it can be determined who the medal was awarded to.Thanks for the nice comments folks.The case is in the same fine condition.If i told you how i came by this award you wold not beleive me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 If i told you how i came by this award you wold not beleive meGo on try us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael smith Posted March 15, 2008 Author Share Posted March 15, 2008 Go on try us.O.K. Hear we go folks,i was wandering around a car boot sale in west wales,where i sometimes visit.There was a man there selling mostly cap badges and british army bits and pieces.I went to his stall to take a look and lo and behold i see 2 german awards.One was a iron cross 2nd class and the other was the cased blood order.Not knowing much about blood orders,i casually enquired what it was and asked for a look at it.He explained the history to me and then i remembered i had seen one in angolia,s book.To cut a long story short it felt good in the hand,and i liked the feeling of it.He wanted 85 pound for it,not being too sure i walked away and came back 5 mins. later.I got it down to 65pounds,and although reluctant to sell decided to let me have it.I sent it to an old ass.of mine Colin Brown who declared it was a good one.I was really delighted to find out about it.It is the lucky find in my life.Glad you were interested what a dream. best regards Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verdun16 Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 That was indeed a very wise choice on your part to buy it and a very lucky day for you. Great find,Bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 O.K. Hear we go folks,i was wandering around a car boot sale in west wales,where i sometimes visit.There was a man there selling mostly cap badges and british army bits and pieces.I went to his stall to take a look and lo and behold i see 2 german awards.One was a iron cross 2nd class and the other was the cased blood order.Not knowing much about blood orders,i casually enquired what it was and asked for a look at it.He explained the history to me and then i remembered i had seen one in angolia,s book.To cut a long story short it felt good in the hand,and i liked the feeling of it.He wanted 85 pound for it,not being too sure i walked away and came back 5 mins. later.I got it down to 65pounds,and although reluctant to sell decided to let me have it.I sent it to an old ass.of mine Colin Brown who declared it was a good one.I was really delighted to find out about it.It is the lucky find in my life.Glad you were interested what a dream. best regards Mike.WOW!! That gives me hope in finding that Fj helmet for 20 dollars at a yard sale!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 O.K. Hear we go folks,i was wandering around a car boot sale in west wales,where i sometimes visit.There was a man there selling mostly cap badges and british army bits and pieces.I went to his stall to take a look and lo and behold i see 2 german awards.One was a iron cross 2nd class and the other was the cased blood order.Not knowing much about blood orders,i casually enquired what it was and asked for a look at it.He explained the history to me and then i remembered i had seen one in angolia,s book.To cut a long story short it felt good in the hand,and i liked the feeling of it.He wanted 85 pound for it,not being too sure i walked away and came back 5 mins. later.I got it down to 65pounds,and although reluctant to sell decided to let me have it.I sent it to an old ass.of mine Colin Brown who declared it was a good one.I was really delighted to find out about it.It is the lucky find in my life.Glad you were interested what a dream. best regards Mike.What a great buy.Colin Brown............there's a blast from the past. I well remember the good old 'Military Endeavours' catalogues! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael smith Posted March 15, 2008 Author Share Posted March 15, 2008 What a great buy.Colin Brown............there's a blast from the past. I well remember the good old 'Military Endeavours' catalogues!Colin is still in business R obin aqnd is still a great and honest dealer. Regards Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe campbell Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 i'll give you $300 for it, no questions asked.... very fine aquisition, and in a fashion whichgives all of us hope that there is a "diamond in the rough"out there waiting our eyes!joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Hello!Nice find. All the bestNesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erich S Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Congrats on a fantastic deal on a very special and rare award! My cased 2nd pattern is my pride and joy as yours must be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erich Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 (edited) Tremendous find! I've had my share of luck over the years but never found a Blood Order out of the proverbial woodwork. I would say you're also very lucky that it was still there when you returned--usually you get only one chance at a deal like this! Would it be possible for you to post a close up photo of the reverse word 'Ihr' showing the rays? Both the type 1 and type 2 have a ray touching the base of the H, but this doesn't appear to in the photos posted. There were at least 2 and possibly 3 producers of the type 2 it's thought, with some very minute detail differences. The examples made by the possible 3rd producer don't seem to display some of the accepted earmarks of the other 2. Erich Edited April 19, 2008 by Erich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael smith Posted April 22, 2008 Author Share Posted April 22, 2008 Tremendous find! I've had my share of luck over the years but never found a Blood Order out of the proverbial woodwork. I would say you're also very lucky that it was still there when you returned--usually you get only one chance at a deal like this! Would it be possible for you to post a close up photo of the reverse word 'Ihr' showing the rays? Both the type 1 and type 2 have a ray touching the base of the H, but this doesn't appear to in the photos posted. There were at least 2 and possibly 3 producers of the type 2 it's thought, with some very minute detail differences. The examples made by the possible 3rd producer don't seem to display some of the accepted earmarks of the other 2. ErichHi. Erich.This is about the best i can do with my camera.I think the line goes about 1 m.m. short of H.but i don,t know if there could be slight surface wear,but i doubt it. Regards Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Sorry duplicate image.Hello!Wow,amazing.All the best Nesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukov Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 O.K. Hear we go folks,i was wandering around a car boot sale in west wales,where i sometimes visit.There was a man there selling mostly cap badges and british army bits and pieces.I went to his stall to take a look and lo and behold i see 2 german awards.One was a iron cross 2nd class and the other was the cased blood order.Not knowing much about blood orders,i casually enquired what it was and asked for a look at it.He explained the history to me and then i remembered i had seen one in angolia,s book.To cut a long story short it felt good in the hand,and i liked the feeling of it.He wanted 85 pound for it,not being too sure i walked away and came back 5 mins. later.I got it down to 65pounds,and although reluctant to sell decided to let me have it.I sent it to an old ass.of mine Colin Brown who declared it was a good one.I was really delighted to find out about it.It is the lucky find in my life.Glad you were interested what a dream.best regards Mike.The stuff of dreams, how amazing is that, well done :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erich S Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Michael, Yours is a textbook example. In the very late medals from the 3800-4000 range it is where I have seen the very small differences that Erich talks about like the line not almost touching the H.In all the 1st pattern and 2nd patterns under 3500 the details seem to be the same IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael smith Posted April 26, 2008 Author Share Posted April 26, 2008 Michael, Yours is a textbook example. In the very late medals from the 3800-4000 range it is where I have seen the very small differences that Erich talks about like the line not almost touching the H.In all the 1st pattern and 2nd patterns under 3500 the details seem to be the same IMO.Thanks for your comments Eric,i keep learning.Regards Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erich Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Erich, I agree with you--The 1st patterns are identical, 2nd patterns though may differ slightly as there were initially at least 2 sets of dies prior to the introduction of the late set (let's say type 2a (like type 1), 2b (very much like type 1 but w/o flaw), 2c (the late type - ray doesn't touch H). I have seen a late type that had an impossibly high number so there was a problem with that one, and raised doubts. I've only seen 3 or 4 examples of these 2c types, and never with a well documented history, but they appear to be a legitimate variant. Erich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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