bolgarin Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 (edited) So, if I read you correctly, you think that this is a "put together" group?Can you tell us more about why there was a screw on the reverse of that year's (1969) Orders?What are the differences by years?Lastly, have you seen Riemers' book on Bulgarian badges?Yes I thinks that this order, document and box is a "put together" groupAnatoly 13 already answer this. I mean 2-d type with a little screw on reverseDuring the years the award system of Bulgaria and the quality of awards changes a lot. In the beginning of Communist period orders were very good in quality, some of them were types with a screw back reverse (like Peoples Freedom order), than it was changed in new type, also good in quality with hot enameled, heavy metal and heavy suspensions. In the middle of 70-th new types appeared, not so good in producing quality ? not using screws, some times poor enameled, thin and light suspensions. In the beginning-middle of 80-th the Bulgarian awards, especially orders become terrible ? cold enameled, some time lack, terrible way of production, small suspensions. On my opinion the awards of this period is difficult to called official government awards. This situation was typical for all orders of communist Bolgaria.Yes I have this book. Very interesting research of Bulgarian communist and some time tsarist badges, with interesting historical comments. Edited March 22, 2008 by bolgarin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Petr, thanks for the link to the Russian Collector website. Very nice page, with all variations of this order, including both types of screw-backs. Thank you and welcome!!Of special interest to Bulgarian Collectors: http://sammler.ru/index.php?act=Gallery&cat=587 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Here's an additional example of a Type 3, Second Class issue: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Type 1 screwback Order, Second Class. Variation 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Reverse: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Case lid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Another example of the Type 2 award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Case for this type: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 And a Type 4: Looks to be cold enamel, very thin, almost paint-like but still with some thickness and translucentness. Note the "waffle" appearance to this type as opposed to the "pebble-grain" back of the type 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Up close and personal on the front: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Very interesting.....Maybe it can be home-made reparations....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatoly13 Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Very interesting.....Maybe it can be home-made reparations.......No.It's realy last emission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Maybe-maybe. I never saw such item awarded to a person. I have awarded groups with Liberty order 2-d class which was awarded in middle 80-th and the order was with normal enameled..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 I have the award document for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Ok. Waiting...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 OK, I've sorted this out. The Type 4 OPL2 came as part of a group to Vulcho Dimov. It was awarded 15 June, 1981.The group also came with a 9th September 3, ns from 1974 and 2 Jubilee Medals. Safe to assume other Jubilees have disappeared as seller had broken the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Hi.Yesterday i have little consultation with my bolgarian collegues. They confirm me that this variant was produced in the 80-th on Sofia mint. Terrible quality....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Yes, compared to the earlier enamel pieces this last type is rather a joke. But in this condition, basicly very rarely worn and undamaged... well. I am happy to have an awarded example of this variation. One thisg is for sure.... it is not the quality of the screwback variation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 +1I already purcased to my collection the same "joke" variant..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Excellent. I do not know how many were made/awarded. But I have not seen very many of these "waffle-back" type 4's at all. Did you get a documented one Petr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Hi.I?dont have documented one. But?i?know?for?sure?that?such?pieces?can?be?awarded?only?in?80-th.?I?think?that?the?quantity?was?not?very?much.?Also?i?know?for?sure?(after some additional consults with my collegues from Bulgaria)?that?in?such?quality?were?produced?only?2?class?of?this?order....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 This one was worn with some pride (I'd like to think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Closer on the badge: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Reverse: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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