Piramida Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Hello everbody, I thought that I might show you a photo of a photo of a serbian medal bar thats in the possession of an acquaintance of mine.What makes it interesting is the fact that its got the first type gold and silver bravery medals that very given out during a very short period of time (november 1912 - july 1913). They were changed to the Milos Obilic medal for bravery because soldiers complained that a womens image should not be on a medal for bravery.In case somebody doesn't know the medals are from left to right:Gold Medal for Bravery 1912Silver Medal for Bravery 1912Medal for Loyalty to the Fatherland (retreat through Albania) 1915Croix de Guerre avec Palme (French)First Balkan War Medal 1912Second Balkan War Medal 1913First World War Medal 1914 - 1918Enjoy Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 (edited) Very NICE!!! I assume that was worn by a senior NCO? (in the war-an officer later maybe?).I don't see any officers' orders on the bar and whoever he was, he was in the army from @1911-1920.I haven't seen that early bravery medal on a bar before. What does the leaf on the ribbon mean?It's a wonderful piece.Do you know if the bravery medal rolls are still in the archives in Serbia?Thanks for showing this to us. Please show us more. Edited April 12, 2008 by Ulsterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piramida Posted April 12, 2008 Author Share Posted April 12, 2008 (edited) I don't think he ever became an officer, obviously he distinguished himself most in the first balkan war.Stangely enough I have no idea what the significance of a palm is on serbian awards, we'll have to wait for someone more knowledgeable to answer that question As for the bravery rolls they should exist, I've been meaning to go to the national archive and make an enquiry about that and a few other things but I never get around to it, even though its a five minute walk from where I live....I have a few other photos of serbian medal bars I'll try to post them at a later time.all the bestIvan Edited April 12, 2008 by Piramida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 I am surprised to see that they did not use the typical rainbow pattern on the WW1 Service/victory medal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piramida Posted April 12, 2008 Author Share Posted April 12, 2008 For some reason Serbia decided not to go with the crowd on that one though I can't see why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
922F Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Fantastic! These lst type bravery medals are true rarities--apparently, they could be exchanged for Milos medals. Even more unusual to find one on a bar. Serbian references describe the bravery medal palm. I disremember if it indicates a second award, mention in dispatches, or army citation level on the French model. Will see if I can run this information down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 5 minutes walk!! That's 15 minutes total there and back (with 5 minutes to answer the question).You gotta go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragomir Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Stangely enough I have no idea what the significance of a palm is on serbian awards, we'll have to wait for someone more knowledgeable to answer that question Oak branch upon a ribbon denoted a repeated award of the same decoration.Dragomir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piramida Posted April 13, 2008 Author Share Posted April 13, 2008 5 minutes walk!! That's 15 minutes total there and back (with 5 minutes to answer the question).You gotta go! Well its not so much that I'm a lazy person but the archives are quite intimidating, theres a big yard with dogs that always seem to be extremely bloodthirsty so I can never get up the courage to ring the bell...Oak branch upon a ribbon denoted a repeated award of the same decoration.DragomirThank you Dragomir for this piece of information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I am surprised to see that they did not use the typical rainbow pattern on the WW1 Service/victory medal.From The Inter-Allied Victory Medal of World War 1 by the late Mr. Alexander J. Laslo.Although Serbia was represented on the Inter-Allied Commission and agreed to its resolutions, Serbian participation in the creation of a Victory Medal was eventually overcome by complex political factors associated with the unification of the Southern Slavs following the war. On December 1 1918, the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, and Slovens was proclaimed with the reigning dynasty of Serbia on the Throne. Also joining the kingdom was Montenegro.While Serbia and Montenegro were independent kingdom's prior to the war and hadstruggled valiantly against the Austrians and then the Germans, the majority of Croats and Slovenes had been part of and sympathetic to Austro-Hungaria. With this in mind, the government decided to act prudently and not alienate those Croatsand Slovenes who had fought with or still supported the defunct Empire by issuing a medal, which would only recognize their recent adversaries, namely the Serbians and the Montenegrins.However, on December 1 1920, Prince Alexander did establish a Commemorative War Medal for those including Montenegrins, who had fought with the old kingdom of Serbia. The issuance of this medal undoubtedly mitigated the decision against a Victory Medal. In lieu of a Victory Medal, thegovernment briefly considered creating a Commemorative War Cross to be awarded to all citizensof the new Kingdom who participated in the war.Kevin in Deva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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