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    Posted (edited)

    Gents,

    can anyone shed any light on the medal, between the Austrian and the Bulgarian?

    (on the medal is in latin written: "Succurre et Spera" = "Help & Hope".)

    Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you! ;)

    Jens

    Edited by KIR
    Posted

    ... upppsss - this one! Sorry! ;)

    It seems to me, IMHO, A sort of red cross/ humanitary medal. The translation is something like: "Soccour and had Hope"

    greetings

    miguel

    Posted

    I would agree.... the ribbon colors do suggest Bulgaria...

    I think you?re mixing the ribbons with the next medal: a Bulgarian Soldiers Bravery cross (1st or 2nd class)...this had the "Italian/hungarian colours on the ribbon

    Greetings

    Miguel

    Posted

    I don't think it can be Bulgarian because the letters are Latin, not Kyrillic. The shape of the cross rather suggests Yugoslavia.

    Posted

    Don't you think it's really neat when a piece like this pops up that so many of us have never seen before? Almost 100 years later and things still appear that no-one has seen!!

    Posted (edited)

    Don't you think it's really neat when a piece like this pops up that so many of us have never seen before? Almost 100 years later and things still appear that no-one has seen!!

    As you can seen a lot of medals/crosses in this bar are of the unofficial type like veteran leagues assoc, etc...(Nrs.: 4,5, 7, 8, 9 & 10) and so on (Crosses from Austria, Germany etc...), so I think this can justify that some of this crosse aren?t see so frequently in a bar.

    Miguel

    Edited by hipnos
    Posted

    It is definetly not a Bulgarian Red Cross medal,

    but as to what it is.... I don't have a clue,

    other than there are several 'humnitarian'

    awards that I have seen, but have not been able

    to really document, this is one I hadn't seen before,

    and have no idea who issued it, except it was

    probably not a red cross organization

    which generally either use one of the standard

    red cross mottos, or have the word or abbev for

    red cross - somewhere on the medal

    having said that

    I will add there are any number of red cross medals

    I've heard of but never seen

    and I have no idea how many I've never heard of

    :rolleyes:

    Posted

    Isn't the red cross award from Italy.... "Lilienkreuz" style and also colors of the ribbon looks like that. Text is Latin also, like I understand? :rolleyes:

    Posted

    Isn't the red cross award from Italy.... "Lilienkreuz" style and also colors of the ribbon looks like that. Text is Latin also, like I understand? :rolleyes:

    @Noor: Hi, you have a picture of red cross award from Italy.... "Lilienkreuz"???

    I can't found one! Thanx! :rolleyes:

    http://awards.netdialogue.com/

    @all: Gentz, thank you very much for your great support! :beer:

    Best regards,

    Jens

    Posted

    I mean with the "Lilienkreuz" the type of the cross.... not award name ;) . Just like I understand, Italians used same shape of cross for some of they old orders as well.

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    Posted

    Well, I initially thought it could be from one of the Italian states as well, so I went through Modena, Parma, Savoy, Sicily, and Tuscany in Werlich's book. And found nothing. Then I looked at Dorling's ribbon chart and the closest match was for the Order of the Star of Italian Solidarity. But the timeline is off, I think.

    Since it was nestled next to the last medal on the bar, and the ribbon is very similar to certain Bulgarian order ribbons, I naturally went in that direction.

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